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Anonymous Posted on Aug 02, 2014

The thread gets caught up in bobbin area

The needle stops and when i open the bobbin area the top thread is a mess

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This mess is commonly referred to as a bird's nest or 'birdnesting' and it's usually caused by incorrect top tension and that's often caused by the top thread not in the correct path. (For me, I occasionally forget to thread through the take-up lever.) A damaged needle can also cause birdnesting.

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radcal

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  • Posted on Sep 14, 2008

SOURCE: bobbin?

DO NOT RESET THE TIMING!! The timing is off on maybe 1 in 100 modern Husqvarna machines. For the user to change the timing is turning a simple fix into a complicated and expensive fix.
If the top thread is "looping up on the bottom" then you have a problem with the tension on the top thread. Here is what to check:
1. Thread the machine all the way through the eye of the needle. Don't go under the foot.
2. Pull the tread to the side. While pulling, lower the presser foot. You should see the needle bend as the thread gets tight. If not, you have no tension on the top thread.
3. With the bobbin in the case, hold the needle thread and turn the handwheel to bring the thread up. Watch through the cover to see if the thread passes over the bobbin from left to right. When it gets to the right side, the take up lever should pull the slack out and the thread should be pulled up. If it comes part way across but does not pull up, make sure the thread is in the take up lever. If you never see the thread, remove the bobbin case and turn the hand wheel. You should be able to see the hook pass behind the needle while the eye is still below the level of the hook. If the eye is above the hook as it passes the needle from right to left, then and only then consider timing the machine. If the hook passes above the eye but doesn't catch the thread (bobbin case out, needle plate on, presser foot down) you probably have a problem with your needle. Put in a new needle and make sure that the flat side is to the back.
99% of the time when a Husqvarna is not picking up the bobbin thread, something simple has been overlooked. Your symptom of looping on the back of the fabric indicate either a threading or tension issue in most cases, not timing.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 23, 2009

SOURCE: bobbin thread bunches up creating a tangled mess under the plate

This could either be due to the bobbin being wound too loosely, or the tension on the top thread is too loose. This just happened to me the other day, and I thought it was the bobbin thread, but then I put another bobbin in with a different color than the top thread (this is a huge help in diagnosing thread issues), and I was surprised to find that it was actually the top thread that was a big loopy mess on the underside of the fabric. I fixed it by tightening the tension on the top thread (quite a bit), and everything was fine.

radcal

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  • Posted on May 19, 2009

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Most likely the thread is riding up and out of the tension disks. Look for the small, round opening in the pre-tensioner. It is the metal piece to the left of the horizontal spool pin. If the thread is on the horz spool pin, it will travel in the rounded opening. If the thread is fed in higher up, it can ride up higher in the pre-tensioner, causing it to not be pinched by the pretension spring and it may ride up and over the top of the tension disks. If this is a possibility, rotate the horizontal spool pin out toward you. Place a spool cap on it and feed the thread around it on the right side and below so the thread feeds into the pre-tensioner horizontally and I think that your problem will go away.
The only reason for this to happen is that you are loosing the upper tension for some reason so if my suggestion doesn't work continue to look at the upper tension assembly and the takeup lever.

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Ellen Den Dulk

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  • Posted on May 26, 2009

SOURCE: Top thread won't pick up the bobbin thread

re insert the needle, maybe you did not put the needle up as far as it is to go. Make sure the flat side of the needle is to the back of the machine. Without any thread in the machine hand turn the wheel and look to see if the hook of your bobbin would/could catch the thread (to see if timing is right)
then thread the machine and hand turn the wheel and see what it is doing.
Your timing might be off, but I do not think that is likely. Though it is possible that when the needle fell out, it hit something hard, broke, and pushed the machine out of timing. then you need to bring it in.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 06, 2009

SOURCE: bobbin thread gets bunched up and loud clicking sound

The problem is never the bobbin when you have this problem. It's the top thread. Take the thread off the top of the machine and rethread the top. Make sure the small tension dial is on 4 or 5 (the larger dial on the front left is for the pressure on the foot, not the thread tension.) After you thread the machine, put the pressure foot down but NOT on the thread. Then pull gently toward the back of the machine. When you do, the needle should bend slightly backwards before the thread comes through the machine. If it pulls with no resistance you could simply have "fluff" or remants of thread between your tension discs. If you do, put the dial on zero and using an old needle, clean between the discs and try threading the machine again with the "pull test" I described earlier.
No tension on the top of the machine, lets the bobbin tension win and it pulls all the thread to the bottom of the fabric.

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