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Hi its about a fuel pump.i think...

Im a woman and my car has stopped its not the coil or distribitor as it is getting headlights dimmed and the battery light came on i went to a mechanic he said the altinator and so i put a replacement in the altinator,(not the coil itself)the thingy with the two rods that goes just on top of it..this was definatley in need of a new one but my car still doesnt start,it kicks over but just wont go,i put fuel in the carby it started for about 10 seconds but really shacky,i did get a try that lasted about a minute and it was smooth but it still stalled,when i tried to get it just to do that again the next day nothing,just clicks over,im thinking it maybe the fuel pump but for the life of me cannot find it,could u please tell me where and how i will know if it works or not ,thankyou very much..

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  • Jenny Wood Nov 13, 2007

    thankyou for your help but more happened sorry could u try to help.continuation of question for valkerie(if possible)oh sorry it is a ford falcon 1991 sedan,(that would have helped!)now something worse has happened,it just wont even click over nothing ,i really think water got into the carby as i was charging the battery overnight and it rained albeit the lid was on the carby but the nuts wernt in place as i was putting fuel in the day prior to try and start it,a couple of things 1st: if it doesnt turn over at all(absolutley nothing that could be the battery) but the battery seemed fine unless the alternator finally took any life it had left in it,and if water did get into the carby how do i get rid of it?would metho work? was the brushes in the alternator i replaced ,if the old one still had just under a 1cm left (2 little rods)did i need a new one?thankyou.

  • Jenny Wood Nov 13, 2007

    sorry but one more question does the battery have anything to do with the fuel pump ie if not enough power pump wont go?thanks again

  • Jenny Wood Nov 20, 2007

    well im at a loss it clicked over again (so no water got in the carbi)but still wont start,i keep getting told the fuel pumpmaybe blocked,but if i hear a sound in the cabi while gettn someone to press accelerator,like the sound of a perfume bottle its not that,i hear a sound like that,then get told i have to hear a sound more like fluid coming through,im getting told different things,its driving me nuts.(IF the battery doesnt have enough charge can that stop the ful pump from working?i finally found the pump in the boot (im pretty sure it is)i just dont get it ,im about to hand the plates in,cos some mechanics see a woman coming and charge me through the roof and the car isnt an expensive one,id just hate to get rid of it if it was something really simple. (no offence to u guys)its really starting to sound like the starter one day turning over then the next not,thankyou for all ur help,u see wen i got a jump start it didnt work,still,so could it still be the battery even if i get a jump start?i went out and bought a part i thought i needed but didnt and i dont want to go buying more stuff just to find out its wrong again.thanks

  • Jenny Wood Nov 20, 2007

    oh yes one night a guy did tap my starter motor andit started that happened only once,then another time a guy turned my ignition a special way he mentioned hearing a click sound i tried starting it for about 30 min nothing he did it once it started,he mentioned clicking it slowly the ignition,but ive tried hitting the starter motor but maybe it needs a big wack as it was very difficult to hit right and get to and i might be tapping the wrong spot, god i may have a dozen problems!!!!hope not.

  • Jenny Wood Dec 09, 2007

    thanks 4 all ur help.i decided to get another car.the fuel filter did have stuff in it but cleaned it out and it still didnt go,my battery must work as the headlights r fine,i really think it was the pump.but i got a smaller car thats heaps better on petrol,i had other problems with the ford (ie radiator overheating,and power steering rack)so gettn rid of it was my best bet,it would have cost more than it was worth to fix it.thanks agin 4 all your help...if i have something go wrong with the corolla(hope not) ill write,.thanks again.



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I know exactly what you are talkking about. the same thing happened to me. my car would just turn off while i was driving. I believe this might be the problem, look in the left of ur trunk there should be a small box with a button on top, press it, and the car will start again. very easy, but most car shops wont tell u cause they want u to pay them to do it

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You don't say what kind of car, what year, what engine, or any of that, but you sound like you know what you're doing, fixing things yourself, and good for you. I like to see that kind of thing, since most men won't even tackle a car anymore.

Anyway, you want answers, and I shall try to give them to you. There are only two places you'd find a fuel pump, in my experience: either in the gas tank itself, or attached to the engine block. Now, since whatever you have has carb, distributor, and coil, the block is the place to look. There will be no wires leading to the pump: it's powered by the camshaft. Simply follow the fuel line off the carb (it'll likely be the largest line leading to the carb. The others should be vacuum lines) and you shall find what you seek.

As for if the pump works or not, the symptoms indicate "not."

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  • Dennis Birtcher Nov 18, 2007

    Okay, '91 Falcon. Now, being from the Chicago area, I can't say I've ever worked on one of those, since Ford stopped selling Falcons here in 1970. And, since my research turned up Falcons only being sold in Australia and New Zealand in '91, I can definitely say I've never worked on one of those, but I believe certain truths should still hold true to all engines...

    Charging a battery overnight is not a good idea. I admit having done so myself, and it'll probably still work for you (not mine though, it was long gone before I resorted to that) but it still is not a good idea.

    There's probably nothing to worry about, carb-wise, if the lid was on but not screwed down.

    But you have a more pressing matter: the engine not turning over. A loud grind noise when attempting to start up indicates a low battery. That grinding is the starter not being able to do it's job because of the low battery.

    But if you're getting no sound attempting to start up, that, I'm afraid, is most likely the starter itself. That is a dead spot on the starter, and said dead spot can, with lots of luck, be bypassed by whacking the starter off the dead spot with a soft faced hammer and a little elbow grease, but usually not. No, I'm afraid the likely solution here is starter replacement. Not that starter replacement is particularly difficult or anything, but it's still one more you'd probably rather not have to do.

    And finally, so far as alternators go, I find that a good test of the alternator (for home mechanics) is to put it under load. Once the Falcon start again, pick a free night, find an unlit side street, flick on the headlights, turn up the radio, and cruise. If the lights hold steady, you're still good. If the lights fade in and out (even the interior lights, making it all the more noticeable), the alternator is going. It may be time for another rebuild, but it may also be time for a replacement, which, like the starter, is not difficult, but time consuming.

  • Dennis Birtcher Dec 06, 2007

    It's been a while since I've been here, so hopefully nothing else has gone wrong.

    So far as the fuel pump location goes, as I've stated, we haven't had Falcons around these parts since the early 70's, so as much as I'd like to help you there, I really can't say if that thing your boot (trunk in these parts) is your fuel pump.

    Anyhow, if the battery doesn't have enough charge, yes, the pump, if electric, would likely not work. However, other symptoms would be more apparent, such as the starter (when it decides to work, that is) turning the engine over more slowly, much like a cold day. If the battery got much lower, the starter would grind loudly and not turn the engine over at all, such is the case with my project car. Also, a low battery would result in low headlight light (if turned on with the car not running)

    However, you mention it still not starting even with a jump start. If the engine is not turning over at all even jumped, then the starter is the problem. If the engine is turning over, but refusing to run under it's own power, then the fuel system is the place to look. Perhaps the fuel pump is to blame (hey, these things wear out sometimes), but first, I would suggest taking a look at the fuel filter. If the system is going to clog, that's where it'll likely be. And, of course, a clogged filter would prevent starting, plus, they're one of the cheaper things that a driveway mechanic can handle.

  • Dennis Birtcher Dec 06, 2007

    Come to think of it, if memory serves, Ford places the fuel pump cutoff switch in the trunk/boot to prevent fuel spillage in the event of a collision. Perhaps that's what you've found, and perhaps that should be reset, the procedure of which will be found in the owners manual.



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