'Chugging' noise when trying to get flow of water from steam tube
I am going through the step-by-step installation with the instructions manual (http://www.gaggia.com/dam/bo/allegati/files/17_syncronylogic.pdf) and I am up-to "35: To load the circuit, position the steam tube over the drip tray. Turn the knob counterclockwise and wait until water flows out smoothly from steam tube; to cut off flow, turn the knob clockwise" on page 23.
When I try this on my machine, I move the knob a-little about 1/3 of the way and steam comes out, when I move it about half way, the machine starts to make a weird clicking/chugging noise and after afew seconds of that, the red light appears.
Apparently the still red light means that the water tray is empty or that the coffee container is empty but they are both full.
This is very frustrating as I won this item on ebay second-hand and the seller claimed to have only used it twice.
Has anyone else experienced or still experiencing this problem?
Any information on how to fix this will be greatly appreciated
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Re: 'Chugging' noise when trying to get flow of water...
You must press the hot water/steam button to make sure it is set on hot water. The chugging noise is the pump slowly putting water through the steam boiler for steaming. When you open the steam knob make sure it is all the way open, you will hear the microswitch click when you reach full open(test it out with the machine off). Red light also means heating and low on water, since you are using all the steam faster than it can make it hence the red light.
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The espresso portion may be clogged with hard water deposits, and the steamer tube with casein. Run a tank of plain white vinegar a couple of times then run a couple of tanks of plain water to flush the vinegar, Open the steam valve while the espresso portion is running and set the steamer pot under the steamer. Don't be surprised if a long white tube of hard white material slides out of the steamer valve. That's the casein, actually a form of organic plastic.
when you remove the cappucinotore, ( the piece that sticks down with the chrome tube and rubber pick up tube) from the door, do you still get no steam? that piece should be removed and cleaned daily. if you dont, I would imagine that it is completely blocked with old milk and would block off the steam.
Below are solutions for a leaking coffee maker and how to decalcify the machine?
Tools and Materials needed to fix this problem are as:
* White Vinegar
* Fresh Water
* Volt-ohm Meter
Step 1 - Clean
If your coffee maker seems to be clogged, try cleaning it with a mixture of white vinegar and water. Assuming that your coffee maker has a 12 cup capacity you will want to use 11 cups of vinegar and 1 cup of water. Fill the coffee pot to the 11 cup mark with vinegar and then fill it to the 12 cup mark with water.
Pour this mixture into the reservoir and turn on the coffee maker, allowing it to run through a brewing cycle as if you were making a pot of coffee. By doing this you will dissolve any build up in your coffee maker. If the coffee maker is leaking because the pump is clogged, then this might clear the clog and stop the leaking. If it has been a while since you last cleaned your coffee maker, you may need to run the vinegar through more than one cleaning cycle to dissolve all of the buildup.
Step 2 - Pump Valve
Unplug the coffee maker and examine the pump valve. If the pump valve is broken or has a clog, then the water will not be able to rise up and flow through the fill tube. When the coffee maker is turned on, the water needs to go someplace. If it cannot flow through the fill tube, then it may leak onto the countertop. If the pump in your coffee maker is sealed, you will need to replace the whole pump. If the pump is not sealed you should check it to ensure it is not clogged with coffee grounds or mineral deposits.
Step 3 - Brew Switch
Examine the brewing switch to ensure that is working. To get to the brewing switch, remove the base plate. Next, you will need to test the switch with your volt-ohm meter. Touch the tester to the RX1 scale. If it reads 0 ohms then you will know that the switch works fine. If it gives you a number other than 0 then it is time to replace the switch.
Step 4 - Tube Connectors
If the coffee maker is leaking or sputtering then you should take a look at the tube connectors. Many times, a leaky coffee maker is caused by faulty tube connectors. If you find the leak is in an elbow, clean the surfaces before you replace it. If the tube connector leaks, replace both the tube and the elbow so that you can be sure the pieces will both fit together properly.
To decalcify, you will be needing a : decalcifying cleaner and A container large enough to hold the same quantity of liquid as your water reservoir
1) Remove the machine's water reservoir.
2) Empty all liquid from the reservoir.
3) Fill the reservoir with warm water.
4) Add one packet of the recommended cleaner to the full reservoir and stir until the cleaner is dissolved.
5) Return the water reservoir to the machine.
6) Turn the machine on.
7) Set the large container underneath the steam wand.
8) Set up your machine so that hot water -NOT steam-will be emitted from the steam wand when the steam valve is opened.
9) Open the steam valve according to the manufacturer's instructions.
10) After all of the decalcifying solution has drained into the large container (within a few minutes this will occur), remove it and discard the liquid that has been collected.
11) Rinse the water reservoir thoroughly and then fill it with the type of water you usually use for brewing.
12) Return the water reservoir to its normal position.
13) Using only water repeat steps 7 through 9 until the water reservoir is empty again.
I hope the above helps....
You need to get the pump "primed" with water going through it.
If the machine is new or has not been used in a long time, the plastic feed tube(s) in the reservoir will be dry. You have to get the water to slowly creep up these tubes until it hits the pump inside, then the water/steam will come out the head and will keep coming out each time you use it until it dries out again.
I've had to re-prime my Via Veneto several times, and each time it seems like I'm doing it wrong and the machine is broken. But follow these steps and you'll get there.
1. Fill the reservoir with water and put the two tubes in it. 2. Turn on the boiler button (left-most of the two narrow ones) 3. Don't put the portafilter on, just leave the head bare. 4. Turn on the pump and let it run. Watch the water level in the plastic tubes. Understand that at this point, the pump is just pumping air, which it is not designed to do efficiently. As it pumps the air it slowly draws water up the tubes. Really slowly. 5. You can speed this up by putting a cup under the steam tube and opening the steam valve. This is while the brewing pump is still on. You will have hot water squirting out of the steam tube. You may see the water moving more quickly up the tubes. 6. The pump may have to run for several minutes. You'll get impatient and scared something is wrong, but just let it run. You'll see the water creep up the tube and go into the unit. Soon afterward pressurized water will start spraying out of the head.
Now, keep it primed for months by keeping water in the reservoir. If you use it only infrequently, run the pump and at least get some water moving every week or so.
I've tried silly things like holding the tubes upside down, trying to get water forced up into them, but in the end, just let the pump do the work and be patient.
The Hoover web site has all the owner's manuals posted for download, just go to this site and put the model number in, the next page will have a link to a pdf copy of the manual! http://www.hoover.com/CustomerService/Manuals/Default.aspx
Switch off the machine.
Pour a descaling product into the water tank.
Switch the machine on to the programming mode(see below). Place a large container under the steam/hot water dispensing tube and open the steam/hot water knob slowly, turning it counterclockwise.
Turn on the machine by pressing the main switch and let the descaling product flow out of the dispensing tube for approx. 1 min.
Close the knob again.
Turn off the machine with the main switch and let the solution take effect for approx. 5 minutes.
Repeat this procedure two or three times, to allow all of the descaling product in the water tank to flow out of the dispensing tube.
As soon as descaling has been carried out, rinse the tank thoroughly and fill it with fresh water.
Switch on the machine and let fresh water (approx. 2 l) flow out of the steam/hot water dispensing tube in order to rinse away residue.
The machine is now ready for operation.
When the machine is on, the warning light switches off automatically, by pressing the steam selection button for at least 5 seconds.
To enter the programming mode, turn the machine
off with the main switch.
Press steam , espresso coffee and the
main switch at the same time.
I think I've figured my yard sale EX 80 out. First, the way I think it works... in the tightly sealed boiler the water is heated to boiling, it must have a pressure release valve that sends the water/steam through the coffee and into the carafe. So dangerously hot and under pressure. Before opening the big round cap at the top (reservoir) relieve pressure at the steam tube valve (right side)
Here's how I made my first batch:
When opening reservoir always turn unit off, let reservoir cool a little between batches or you may get a cloud of steam in your face when pouring in water, might not be good for the heating element to shock it with sudden drastic temperature changes either.
Cleaned by running a couple of jugs of water through, cold water (4 on the supplied jug) into the reservoir all parts installed. I read somewhere online (not specific to any machine) not lukewarm water, if it's online it must be true... right?
Put coffee into filter basket/basket holder, matching amount of water in reservoir, 2 or 4 (markings on filter and jug). Espresso coffee should be very finely ground
Install all covers and the coffee basket/filter basket, close steam tube valve, install carafe and turn on the machine. Should get blast of espresso after a couple of minutes.
The steam tube (operated by the valve) seems a little cheesy on first try but I'll get better with practice. There's no steam to the tube until the reservoir starts to send steam to the coffee, the coffee kinda restricts the steam enough to send it to the tube. I was thrown a little because I didn't get steam when I was cleaning the thing, but I think that was because there was no coffee to block the flow. So I opened the valve at the start of the brew, steamed the milk, closed the valve and then the steam blasts through the coffee, tasted good.