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I have a electric whirlpool 50 gal. energy saver water heater that is 3 months old. It keeps shutting off so i called whirlpool and sears came out and replaced the energy smart box on top. now it is flashing, first it flashed 5 times which means check lower heating element. i hit the reset button. then it flashed twice saying high temperature. again i hit the reset button. called whirlpool and they said to get an electrician. what can be the problem?

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The thermostat should be replaced it only has one on the upper eloement, it has the dial on it to set the temp, but if it is only 3 months old it comes with a 1 year parts 6 year tank warranty, if you call whirlpool and tell them about this problem they will have there own teck or sub contractor that they use to come out and fix it for free,,, first go to there web site and put in your serial number and it will tell you how old the unit is, sometimes they sit for a while and are actually out of warranty before it is installed,, also did you install it your self?? if you did di you fill it with water all the way till the water came out of the hot side on your faucet full force before turning on the electric,, if not you have fried the whole unit, you will need to replace both elements and the thermostat, the elements must be completely submerged in water before they have the power turned on,,,

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How do I bypass the control board on a whirlpool energy smart water heater ?


I run out of hot water after one short shower. Lights looks normal. I have adjusted it every way I can, still the 50 gal water heater runs out after one shower. I have check the elements and are fine.

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Is the Whirlpool Electric Water Heater Model # EE3J50RD045V energy star rated


You want to know if this heater has Energy Star label.
I don't know.
Call Whirlpool 1-877-817-6750

Energy Star is a label that means nothing to you.
Manufacturers use energy-star label to promote a product as a money-saver.
They can put an Energy Star label on a giant 10,000 square foot house, and you know that cannot be the truth that a large house saves energy vrs a smaller house.

Energy factor, (energy factor/ not energy star) on the other hand, is a comparison measure how efficient the water heater uses energy to heat a gallon of water, when water heater is absolutely new.
EE3J50RD045V has energy factor of .59, which is completely typical and ordinary for electric water heaters.

The EE3j 50 gallon is an ordinary electric water heater, with ordinary average .59 energy factor rating, so electricity to operate this water heater is same as any other typical 50 gallon electric water heater: it will cost $35-45 a month depending on incoming water temperature, hot water use, thermostatic setting, electricity pricing, and whether you operate heater at peak pricing, etc.
http://waterheatertimer.org/9-ways-to-save-with-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-much-does-it-cost-to-run-water-heater.html

The most important measure of water heater cost does not have anything to do with Energy-star or energy-factor.
The most important measure is total cost of owning and operating the water heater.
So if you spend $100 more to purchase electric water heater with slightly higher energy factor, then it will not pay you back. The difference will be $2 to $4 per year.
All costs are energy.
The total cost of operating water heater includes purchase price, installation cost, cost of repairs, cost of parts, whether you can fix it yourself, expected life of water heater, and replacement cost.
Every water heater has expected lifespan, and will not have resale value except current price of scrap.

Electric water heaters cost more to operate per month than same-size gas water heater.
Gas water heater might cost less over the life of water heater, but gas water heaters are increasingly expensive to repair, and increasingly more complicated, and cost more up-front to buy.

Electric water heaters cost less to buy, are easy to install yourself, are fully repairable by homeowner using generic off-the-shelf parts, and can be made to last many years by keeping tank clean and replacing anode rod every 2 years.
You can make ordinary 6-year electric water heater from box store last almost indefinitely.
Avoid electric water water heater that has electronic controls.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Clean-sediment-out-of-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Replace-anode-rod.html

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Do you need to insulate electric water heaters. Serial# RH0908242745 Model#82V402


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I want to buy a new energy star 50 gal. gas tank hot water heater that will be trouble free (not like the PROMAX GVC) can you give me some suggestions on makes and models that are reliable, energy friendly...


Hi Chris.

My experience with water heater is like cars.
There are a few manufacturers making all the cars, and people sometimes get a bad one.
AO Smith, Bradford White, Rheem make most of the water heaters.
Each is shipping 150,000+ water heaters a month.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-manufacturers.html

Since all costs are energy, I suggest buying off-the-shelf tank-type water heater at local box store.
Sears, Ace, Home Depot, Lowes/ in no particular order.
The big manufacturers make box-store brands. All brands are good. The warranties are industry standard.
Stay away from blowers and electronics so you can maintain and repair the unit yourself with common, inexpensive off-the-shelf parts.
Install it yourself for around $330.
Adapt to the water heater. Read the manual and advisories. Do the maintenance so you are not disappointed.
Use the old tank as a staging tank for cold incoming water, or use it for DIY solar water heater:
Read the money-saving installation tips, plus a few maintenance tricks shown on following link.
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It sounds like the box is bad.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Whirlpool-Energy-Smart-electric.html

For second opinion:
Call Whirlpool number that shows in manual.
Person answering phone will want product number and serial number that is located on label on side of tank

Manual says:
1-877-817-6750
When calling for assistance, please have the following
information ready:
1. Model Number
2. 7 Digit Product Number
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What is the energy factor for the mod.82V80-2? I have two seperate 30amp circuits, one for the top element and one for the bottom element, if that changes anything.


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82V80-2 Energy factor is .86 according to water heater industry self-regulated standards.

Rheem pdf says these water heaters are wired for non-simultaneous operation.
Except special order water heaters.
Non-simultaneous operation uses single 240V circuit as described below.
If your water heater is wired for simultaneous operation, and each element is on a separate circuit, that makes your water heater special order. I would guess the reason is for higher first-hour delivery, which implies rapid heating and would likely affect energy factor.
You might want to get serial number off model and call Rheem for specs on that special order.

Your water heater energy factor may be the same because 'energy efficiency is based on the amount of hot water produced per unit of fuel consumed over a typical day.' This means an aircraft carrier can be considered highly efficient despite overall cost. And naturally the guys making the aircraft carrier are also doing the rating.
http://www.energysavers.gov/your_home/water_heating/index.cfm/mytopic=13000

Non simultaneous operation means the upper thermostat controls heating functions.
240V goes to upper thermostat first.
When water inside tank is cold, thermostat reads temperature through tank wall.
Upper thermostat turns on upper element until top 2/3 of tank reaches thermostat set point.
Once set point is reached, upper thermostat turns off upper element and sends power to lower thermostat and lower element.
Lower thermostat reads temperature through tank wall, and turns on lower element until bottom 1/3 of tank reaches thermostat set point.
As water cools inside tank, lower thermostat is first to respond since hot water rises.
Lower thermostat turns on lower element until tank again reaches set point.
When hot water faucet is turned on, hot water exits top of tank.
At same time, cold water enters bottom of tank through the dip tube.
The heating cycle repeats.
At all times, the electricity flows through upper thermostat. And upper thermostat is powered by one 240V circuit.

With simultaneous operation, the upper and lower thermostats work in same manner.
Except thermostats are wired separately.
Lower thermostat does not wait for upper part of tank to be heated first.
Lower thermostat turns on whenever lower part of tank cools.
The advantage is more hot water available rapidly when demand is high. This is called first hour recovery.

One method for reducing electric consumption is to set lower thermostat so it only turns on during certain times of day. For example Whirlpool Energy Smart operates in this manner and shaves a few bucks off the bill each month. This says that simultaneous operation is not an energy saver, unless that circuit controlling lower thermostat is set on a timer.

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Do not touch water heater that is tripping breaker.
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