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Replaced broken motor coupling, but its not agitating on spin. Did noticed oil coming from transmission. Need to know if bolt that is coming out of tranmission that the coupling goes on should move like the one coming out of the motor?

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  • tiffanie573 Jun 25, 2009

    does this mean it needs a new transmission or might it be something else causing it not to turn?

  • tiffanie573 Jun 26, 2009

    what causes tranmission to lock? Can I fix it w o replacing it?

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Posted on Jun 25, 2009

  • MIKE major Jun 26, 2009

    transmission locked up,both sides should turn freely-mike

  • MIKE major Jun 26, 2009

    i just replace them,remove the agitater nut and the three trans nuts and the whole thing comes out,maybe you can get one from a used appliance shop-mike

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Kenmore 80 series( older one ) not spinning out properly. Seen traces off oil on bottom trans.


The oil is a sign of a failing transmission, I would check the direct drive coupling for broken
pins and also replace the "dog agits" located under the cover on the agitator. You have to take out the bolt in the center to lift the upper portion of the agitator to replace these. They are designed to wear out to prevent transmission breakage. They cost around 5 dollars for a set. Model and serial are under the lid back by the control panel.
If the dog agits do not solve the problem, and the coupler is intact then the transmission
is failing. Hope this helps.

Jul 03, 2011 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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I have an older Kenmore top loading washer model 11082994100. The machine is in excellent condition and I replaced the main control board a couple of years back. Issue is lately when machine goes to end of...


First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:


http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-model/Kenmore-Parts/Washer-Parts/Model-11082994100/0582/0153200?pathTaken=

and you'll see a list of major sub-components with diagrams and parts.

If the bottom agitates and not the top, the problem is likely the 4 "agitator dogs" designed to allow the top agitator to turn only one way.

Look at the section on the Sears site for Agitator, basket and tub.

See the part "Dog, agitator "

Remove the fabric softener unit, lift the top agitator cap (use a screwdriver) and you should see a plastic part in the center of the top agitator with a 1/2" square drive.

Remove the drive and lift off the top agitator. Turning it over you should see the 4 "dogs", replace these and the top agitator should turn in one direction only.

Replace the 1/2" drive, the cap and fabric softener unit and the top agitator should work.

Also see the following illustrated description of the above.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=136&osCsid=0da65cea0e338fe930b1fde153a243f0

See the following Whirlpool Service manuals for top load, direct drive washers. They describe what happens in the transmission when the washer goes into spin mode:


WHIRLPOOL INST AND MAINTENANCE INCLUDING HOW TRANSMISSION WORKS

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf


WHIRLPOOL TRANSMISSION DESCRIPTION AND SPRINGS

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/2550f737b3129b0c85256b0600504738/$FILE/787772%20%234.pdf

Also see the Whirlpool Parts list for their Commercial washers, although the consumer models use the same transmission.

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf


Basically whats happening is this.

When the washer goes into spin mode two plastic cams are forced together and raise a gear on the main agitator shaft that is supposed to keep the agitators from spinning. If the cams are worn (not necessarily broken) the gear doesn't lift high enough to completely disengage the agitators. We had the same problem. Ours was a major gear noise but a clicking could also be a symptom. A set of Whirlpool Agitate Cams (part number 62580/01) cost about $15.00.

It's a bit messy to fix (16 oz. of oil in the transmission) but very inexpensive.

See the following for how to remove the transmission.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators.

The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt. A 1/2" socket extension works well.

You don't have to remove the drum.

You can also see this site for removing the transmission.


ILLUSTRATED DESCRIPTION OF REMOVING CABINET THRU TRANSMISSION.

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside, remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission. Pull the transmission, remove the clutch (there is a spring clip that holds the clutch on the main agitator shaft, remove the 8 screws carefully the transmission holds 15 Oz of 80-90 weight gear oil. (Available at auto parts stores)


Remove the transmission cover.

Pull off the spin pinion.

Push down on the agitate spring and remove the spring clip. Note where is attaches to the main shaft.

The two plastic agitate cam parts pull right off. Don't lose the washer on top of the cams.

Replace the cams, washer, spring and clip, pinion, oil (assuming you drained the oil first), cover and clutch parts.

Line up the transmission so that the release cam on the brake drum will snap onto the clutch spring retaining clip and put all parts back in the washer.

I'd also check the Motor Coupler (a $15.00 item that tends to wear) while you have the transmission out.


The basic tools are screwdriver, small socket set with up to a 1/2" socket, vice grips or good pliers (to remove and replace clips)

Nov 14, 2010 | Washing Machines

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The washer will not agitate or spin out. the washer will fill and empty the water.


The most likely cause is the motor coupling, one on the motor and one on the transmission. UNPLUG POWER FROM WASHER. If it is broken your washer will fill and you will hear the motor running but nothing will happen, no agitation or spin. You will need to loosen the console, remove the cabinet drain pump and motor, then the motor coupling can be replaced on the motor and transmission. Part comes as a kit. Part number 285753a. Please rate this post.

Dec 14, 2009 | Kenmore 3.2 cu. ft. Plus Top Load Washer

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Kenmore 110.23832100 post rinse cycle spin problems


First, see the Sears parts site for your washer:

http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/getModel!retrieve.pd?modelNumber=110.23832100

See the Whirlpool service manual for these washers.

https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/f7e2147fa98b28cf85257122007475cb/$FILE/L-55.pdf

Sometime spinning points to a few places.

First, Kenmore top load washers use a motor coupler to transmit power from the motor to the transmission for agitating and spinning. If the coupler is worn or damaged (the prongs on the motor or transmission shafts are broken) the machine may agitate but may not spin.

Second. These washers use a clutch to transmit power to the tub for spinning. If the clutch is worn, it may not be able to transmit all of the power from the transmission.

Third. These washers are whats called Top load, Direct Drive Neutral Drain. This means that when the washer goes into spin mode, the "neutral drain assembly" has a built in mechanical timer that allows most of the water to drain and then begins the spin cycle.

If the cams in the neutral drain assembly are broken or, as we found onours, a spring on one of the cams is broken, the machine won't spinwithout help.

Forth: These washers use a spin tube, driven by the clutch and connected to the tub with a "basket drive block" If the tabs on top of the spin tube have broken off or aren't inside the slots in the drive block, the tub may not spin.

All of the diagnostics start with pulling the cabinet.

See the following:

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

With the transmission out you have access to the motor coupler and clutch. Check both before proceeding.

If the motor coupler and clutch look OK, I'd pull the tub and spin tube and check the tabs on the spin tube and drive block.

If all else appears OK, the problem points to the neutral drain assembly.

Ours had the same problem, no spin unless the lid was raised and lowered or we shut off and re-started the cycle.

After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators. The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt (a 1/2" socket extension works well).

You don't have to remove the drum.

http://www.fixya.com/support/r699497-replacing_gearcase

OR

http://www.american-appliance.com/catalog/newsdesk_info.php?newsPath=16&newsdesk_id=137

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside, remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission. Pull the transmission, remove the clutch (there is a spring clip that holds the clutch on the main agitator shaft, remove the 8 screws carefully the transmission holds 14 - 15Oz of oil, remove the clip holding the main spin gear on and check the plastic cams.

If the cam that should have a spring doesn't, or the others look damaged, or the main spin gear is damaged the washer won't go into spin mode.

If that's the problem, install a Neutral drain kit, put everything back together carefully and the problem may be solved.

As an aside, fixing ours cost less than $30 including 80-90 weight gear oil vs. $170 for a new transmission.

Oct 27, 2009 | Kenmore 24032\24036 Top Load Washer

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My washer does not spin


Hello, from the limited information I have this sounds like it's going to be a broken coupling. wirlpools are direct drive machines this means they don't have a belt. Instead the transmission is connected directly to the motor via a coupling. This is what a coupleing looks like: 0c6b869.jpg To confirm this pull the machine forward enough that you can lean it back and it will stand back under it's own weight. Wedge something underneath the chasis so it does not fall on you while your accessing the bottom. Go under the Machine and locate the motor, You will see the pump connected to the motor connected to the transmission. 1. Unplug the wire harness from the motor then. 2. Use a screw driver remove the 2 clips holding the pump in place and remove or push the pump out of the way. 3. You will need to remove the 2 screws from the brackets holding the Motor in place with a nut driver. 4. With a screwdriver remove the 2 clips holding the motor in place (be carefull to support the motor as the clips comes off) 5. remove the motor and drop it onto the floor. Now you will see the coupling..one side on the motor the other side on the transmission the rubber connector inbetween. Replace the coupling if broken or worn and reassemble the washer in reverse order. Now you should be all set. Be aware you may smell rubber on the first couple loads this is normal after replacing a coupling. Good Luck!! if you have any other questions or concerns please feel free to comment again. Mike p.s Please remember to rate my solution since this helps me to help other people :) Thanks! P.s Don't forget to unplug the power cord before servicing.

Sep 22, 2009 | Washing Machines

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Washing machine does not spin unless I go in and start to turn the drumb. Lots of water on the floor.


Assuming that this is a top load, direct drive, neutral drain washer you appear to have two problems. No spin and a broken/leaking gasket or pump hose.

A good place to look at parts and diagrams of a basic Whirlpool washer (commercial model but consumer models are basically the same) is:

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

It's possible that

1. The motor coupling between the motor and transmission is worn enough that the motor cannot turn the transmission fast enough to begin the spin cycle.

2. You may have a problem with worn/broken cams in the neutral assembly. Those cams/gears etc. in that assembly keep the washer from spinning until all of the water is pumped out and then go into spin mode. Apparently, by opening and closing the lid, and giving it a minor hand spin, the cams and torque from the motor starting throws the cams into the right gears so that the washer will spin.

Inspecting the motor coupler only requires unplugging the, removing the cabinet, pump (two clips) and the motor (two screws and two clips). Since you will do this to check out the pump anyhow, that's a start.

Look at the coupler on the motor and transmission, If it's worn badly or broken replace it. Beyond that, if it appears to be the transmission, you'll have to remove the agitators (a 1/2" drive bolt under the cap for the top agitator and a bolt into the agitator shaft. Pulling the transmission and checking the cams requires a little basic mechanical knowledge.
Remove the clutch (one spring clip), the spin pinion, 8 bolts for the transmission cover (full of 16 Oz of 80-90 weight oil) and the clip that holds the main spin gear in place. Remove that and look at the neutral drain cams. On ours, the cam with a small spring didn't have one (it has broken off) sp the washer wouldn't go into spin mode unless we hand spun it to get it started or lifted and lowered the lid.

Replace the cams, put everything back and it should work.

The waste on the floor could be caused by a leaking pump, broken drain hose or the gasket at the base of the tub. Since you'll have mose of the washer apart anyway, these should be easy to check.





Sep 21, 2009 | Whirlpool Washing Machines

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Kenmore series 80 won't spin


The following has some assumptions.

1. The timer goes through it's complete cycle.

2. If you lift and lower the lid, does the washer go into spin.

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If you lift the lid, put it down again and the washer begins to spin, the problem is likely in the transmission "Neutral Drain Assembly".

Those cams/gears etc. in that assembly keep the washer from spinning until all of the water is pumped out and then go into spin mode. Apparently, by opening and closing the lid, torque from the motor starting throws the cams into the right gears so that the washer will spin.
After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators. The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt. You don't have to remove the drum.

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside, remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission.

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remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace.

Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (16 oz.) of 80-90 weight oil.

Remove the transmission cover.

Pull off the spin pinion.

Carefully remove the clip from the main drive gear (metal with white gears.

Under it are a number of cams (the instructions with the kit show where each one goes.

Carefully put everything back together and hopefully your problem is solved.

Sep 19, 2009 | Kenmore 24032\24036 Top Load Washer

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My kenmore washer makes a rapid clicking sound during the spin cycle. replaced the coupler but it didn't fix my problem. clicking starts at the end of the rinse cycle when the washer starts to drain...


If the washer pump drains (and you hear the motor), the timer is directing power to the motor to reverse itself and spin the pump. (timer, motor and pump should be OK)

If you lift the lid, put it down again and the washer begins to spin, the problem is likely in the transmission "Neutral Drain Assembly".

Those cams/gears etc. in that assembly keep the washer from spinning until all of the water is pumped out and then go into spin mode. Apparently, by opening and closing the lid, torque from the motor starting throws the cams into the right gears so that the washer will spin.

Ours had the same problem, no spin unless the lid was raised and lowered or we shut off and re-started the cycle.

After looking at the transmission parts list (available on a number of sites) and on the Whirlpool site (Whirlpool makes Kenmore) we noticed that the one of the cams in the neutral assembly which is supposed to have a small spring, didn't on ours when we tore the transmission apart again

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10114743.pdf

Found the part number for a kit (Whirlpool part number 388253 Neutral Assembly) for $15.00 and replaced the cams and gears.

In order to get the transmission out, you have to remove the cabinet, the fabric dispenser and both agitators. The top agitator uses a plastic 1/2" drive bolt. You don't have to remove the drum.

Lay the machine down (after disconnecting power and hoses, remove the pump (two clips), the motor (two screws hold two clips on the motor), lift and set the motor aside, remove two 1/2 inch bolts for the motor mounting plate and three 1/2 inch bolts for the transmission.

It's possible that the main drive gear (plastic) is stripped or the Spin Pinion (Whirlpool made them out of plastic for a couple of years) is stripped.

Pull the transmission.
Remove the clutch (the spring holding the clutch to the spin pinion is a bear to replace.

Remove the 8 transmission screws carefully, the transmission is full (16 oz.) of 80-90 weight oil.

Remove the transmission cover.

Check the Spin Pinion and main spin gear.

Sep 19, 2009 | Kenmore Washing Machines

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Spin cycle not working, agitator does not move


If it there is no agitation or spin, check the motor coupling. The motor coupling connects the motor to the transmission. Replace it if it is broken.
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The part number is 285753A
Let me know if you need instructions on how to replace it.

If it's not broken, you may have a problem with the transmission/gearcase (10 year warranty, get it replaced!)
Good luck!

Mar 21, 2009 | Whirlpool Washing Machines

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Whirlpool ultimate care II super capacity plus ser.# LSQ8243HQO The top half of adjitator is not turning at all. Handiman1125@aol.com


If the bottom half of the agitator is turning and the spin cycle works, then the motor coupling is good.
Check the agitator by turning it back and forth. It should work like a ratchet (turns one way, locks the other way). If you're able to turn it in both directions, the agitator dogs are worn and need to be replaced. To do this remove the agitator cap and the bolt that holds down the agitator. With the bolt out you can remove the top section of the agitator (auger) where you should see 4 small white or beige plastic gears (dogs). Replace those and it should be ok.
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The part number is 80040.

If it there is no agitation or spin, replace the motor coupling.
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The part number is 285753A

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