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Thread loops in top of embroidery

Embroidery leaves loops on topside of fabric. I have loosened the upper thread tension to 0 and does better however, I have used double stabilizer, same type thread in bobbin, slowed down motor. I recently wound thread in wheel and around gears. I cleaned it all out however, I feel that I may have fouled something up with the stitching at that time. Top thread seems to get caught in loop and breaks. Maybe the hook or timing. Your thoughts and ballpark figure of cost to get fixed. my machine is a Bernina Artista 200. I did not see this in the product box.

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  • Sewsew Nov 07, 2007

    I decided to take it into the dealer to lookat..thanks anyway.

  • Anonymous Mar 17, 2014

    I've tried new nedles, cleaning the spool carriage area, nothing seems to solve it. Any answers?



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If it was an upper tension problem your loops would be beneith the fabric. Since the loops are on top this tells me the lower tension is too loose. There is a small screw on your bobbincase that you need to turn clockwise to adjust it. Do the adjustment little by little until its good. I would do it like a clock. First turn the screw to one o'clock. Still looping? Go to 2 o'clock etc.
If this doesn't help you, a clean opikl, and adjust by your local dealership could be anywhere from 50.00 to 90.00.
Good luck

Posted on Nov 06, 2007


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When I do embroidery on om singer future the top tension is to loos it make some loops please help?

Remove the upper thread. Then RAISE the presser foot and re-thread from the beginning. Verify the thread path is correct. Set the upper tension to the midway point and retest your machine. You may need to tweak the upper tension. For garment or regular sewing, the tension is correct when both threads meet in the middle of the fabric, however embroidery sometimes requires the upper thread to be a bit looser so the bobbin thread will not appear on the top of the fabric.


Dec 19, 2016 | Singer Sewing Machines

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Most of the time the bobbin stitch is correct. Occasionally there is a loop in the bobbin thread. Any suggestions as to what this could be?

Is it actually the bobbin thread that loops or is the loop appearing on the underside of the fabric as you stitch? If it is a loop under the fabric, that's usually an indication it is an upper thread issue. Thread irregularities that appear on the topside of the fabric are generally bobbin related.

First thing to try is installing a brand new needle. Verify it is the correct needle for the fabric and thread being used.
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Sometimes, the fabric being stitched will "grab" the thread and hold it for a second before releasing and will cause a loop. In this case, a needle with a larger scarf and eye may be helpful.

You might also open the upper tension as much as possible, RAISE the presser foot and run a piece of UNwaxed dental floss through the tension disk a few times to clear out any gunk that may be stuck there. A piece of pearl cotton dipped in rubbing alcohol and squeezed moist/dry will also work.

Remove the upper thread. RAISE the presser foot and rethread the top thread from the beginning. Use only fresh, good quality thread--NO old or bargain bin variety! Try using the same thread in the top and bobbin. Make sure the thread is firmly seated in the tension disk and the thread path is correct. Check that there are no burrs or snags in the thread path that could be catching the upper thread. Especially, check that the thread is not catching on the spool "slit" that holds the thread when in storage. Every time the thread navigates around the thread spool, it could be catching on that slit just enough to cause a loop.

Try changing the bobbin. There could be something amiss with the current bobbin--could be nicked or could even be the wrong bobbin for the machine. Also, make sure the bobbin is loaded and turning the correct direction in the machine.

Set the upper tension to the midway point. This is usually the starting point, although it will probably require some tweaking. Test your stitch and adjust the tension so the upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric. Neither thread should dominate one side of the fabric or the other.

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Last thing to try is a different presser foot.

If you still have the intermittent loop, you might want to take it for service. Could be a problem within the tension disk.

Nov 05, 2016 | Sewing Machines

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What am I doing wrong when the stitching on top of the material is ok and straight and the backside is knotting?

wrong bobbin tension , but amazingly its actually easier to adjust the top threads tension to compensate for it , use your tension knob to slowly adjust , try an inch , slowly adjust try an inch , and so on to get a top and bottom thread tension to match , this will need to be adjusted for each major change in fabric (aka , knits to woven )

Aug 17, 2016 | Sewing Machines

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Needle stitch fine. Bobbin stitch loops.

First, try a brand new needle.

Second, consider using a better quality thread. By all means, AVOID old or bargain bin threads. Coats & Clark used to be a standard, but thread quality has improved over the past few years, so you may want to check out other brands like Aurafil, Superior, Isacord, etc. Also, cotton wrapped polyester thread releases thread lint that contributes to build-up of gunk in the machine. Some sewists have noted that they experience more sewing issues when using C&C threads. However, some machines will do better with certain thread brands than others, so some experimentation may be beneficial.

Third, check the stitch on your sample again. Generally, when thread loops appear on the underside of the fabric, it is the upper thread that is the problem. If loopy threads appear on the top of the fabric, it is the bobbin thread that is the issue. You can even use a different color in the top to help distinguish which thread is the problem.

Fourth, when threading the upper thread, Always Raise the Presser Foot during the threading process so the tension disk is released and the thread can seat properly. "Bird nesting" occurs when the thread is not seated in the tension disk.
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Fifth, when the upper thread appears on the underside of the fabric, the upper thread tension is too loose. If the bobbin thread appears on the top of the fabric, the tension thread is too tight (or the bobbin thread is loose). Start out with the upper tension set at the midway point and tweak it from that point. The tension is ideal when both upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

Also, remember that tension is not static--a tension setting for chiffon will most likely not work on cotton or denim. Get comfortable adjusting the tension to suit the project you are sewing.


May 24, 2016 | Sewing Machines

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I have a Bernina 145 S activa and I can't get my satin stitch to work , it brings the bobbin thread to the top , what can I do ?

Do you use stabilizer when you are satin stitching? I had a teacher who also hooped the fabric with a spring-loaded embroidery hoop (turned upside-down under the presser foot so the fabric is flat against the needle plate) that would keep the fabric taut.

It is not uncommon for bobbin thread to rise to the top when doing embroidery, satin stitch, etc., especially if you are using lighter-weight thread than usual. You would normally loosen the upper tension so the upper thread will sink into the fabric. However, if loosened upper tension is not doing enough, you may need to adjust bobbin tension when doing embroidery, applique... You might try tightening the bobbin tension just a smidgen to get the bobbin thread to stay below the fabric. Be sure to mark the bobbin case before making any adjustments so you can return it to the original setting when finished with the satin stitch. (If you do a lot of satin stitch or applique, etc., you may want to invest in a separate bobbin case that is set up only for doing that kind of work--saves having to alter the bobbin tension frequently.)

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Mar 16, 2016 | Bernina Sewing Machines

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My bobbin thread continues to bunch up on the back of the fabric.. How can I fix this?

Is it really the bobbin thread that is globbing? Check closely. Usually it is the upper thread accumulating under the fabric.

If it is in fact the bobbin thread, then the bobbin case is not threaded correctly, the bobbin case tension needs adjustment, or it is broken and needs replacement. There are web sites and YouTube videos that show how to adjust the bobbin case tension.

QUICK FIXES: Remove all the thread from the machine. Clean the area around the feed dogs and bobbin area. Oil as instructed in the owner's manual using ONLY fresh, good quality sewing machine oil (only 1-2 drops each spot). Install a brand new needle insuring it is installed correctly. Avoid using fuzzy, old, or bargain bin thread. Rethread: Be sure you raise the presser foot BEFORE threading the upper thread so it will seat properly in the tension disk--and check to make sure you are threading the machine correctly. Check that the upper tension is set properly (the factory standard is usually the halfway point between the high & low number on the selection). Test on a scrap of the fabric you wish to sew. Adjust the upper tension--either tighten to pull the upper thread toward the top of the fabric, or loosen to pull more upper thread down.

Here are some web sites that may help.

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Dec 29, 2015 | Sewing Machines

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Regular sewing - I cannot get the thread tension correct. The bobbin seems too lose. How do I adjust? I've tried using the adjust key but I still get loose thread and puckered fabric.

Be sure to RAISE the presser foot BEFORE threading the upper thread. Set the upper tension to the mid-point which is generally the factory setting. Test. If thread is looping or bunching under the fabric, the upper tension needs to be tightened. If there is a problem above the fabric, try loosening the upper tension.

NOTE--sometimes the stitching problem is a result of the type of fabric being sewn. Most machines have a presser foot pressure setting that can be tightened or loosened to accommodate the fabric.

The tension is correct when the two threads meet in the middle of your fabric.

Sep 26, 2015 | Sewing Machines

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Looped threads

Hello Rosemary
Looped thread on the underside are created by the upper thread. Loops on the top of the fabric are created by the bobbin thread. Whichever one is looping, has very little tension. This may be corrected by:
1. Re-threading the upper thread according to manufacturer's specifications.
2. Re-wind bobbin and re-set it into bobbin case and bobbin case area according to manufacturer's specifications.
3. Ensure that the needle is correctly installed and is the correct needle for the sewing machine.
4. Ensure that he bobbin being used is the correct one for the machine.
5. Double check that the tension on the upper thread is at the correct setting.
6. Double check that the tension unit is clean and free of dust, lint or lodged thread/s.
7. Double check that the bobbin tension is correctly set ... if you are comfortable doing so, otherwise leave it for a qualified technician
8. Make sure that he presser foot is down when stitching.
Please let me know how you go.
Happy stitching.

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Bottom thread is looping on top of fabric on my Singer Futura 400 machine

Thread looping can also be caused by the use of adhesive stabilizers. During embroidery, your needle can gum up. Try floating a sheet of wax paper on the bottom to see if that might be the cause (along with the above solutions, of course).

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Do I need the embroidery hoop? does it connect to the thing in the back of the machine and moves areouns?

  1. What do I need to get started at free machine embroidery?
    • A zigzag sewing machine with a drop-feed control. (In other words, you have to be able to lower the feed dogs so they don't try to feed the fabric.) It's nice if you can vary the width of your zigzag stitches too.
    • An embroidery foot or needle with embroidery spring. An embroidery foot helps by holding the fabric down against the throat plate while nevertheless being minimal - it lets you see what you're doing because it has very little surface area. You can alternatively get a needle that has a kind of spring built into it, and the spring holds the fabric in place. These can be nice in that they're even more minimal than an embroidery foot, but they're also relatively expensive and if it breaks you have to replace the whole thing instead of using an ordinary cheap needle with the special embroidery foot. If you use the needle with spring, you don't use a presser foot while you embroider.
    • An embroidery hoop. There are two primary kinds of embroidery hoops on the market. The old-fashioned kind, usually made of wood, has an outer ring and an innter ring. You loosen the outer ring, separate the rings, place the fabric over the inner ring, place the outer ring over the fabric, tighten the outer ring, and pull the fabric tight in the hoop. With the modern type hoop, you squeeze a pair of handles on the inner ring to remove it, place the fabric over the outer ring, place the inner ring (still squeezed) into place and release the handles. The more modern hoop is faster and easier. The old-fashioned hoop provides better tension on the fabric.
    • Stabilizer. This helps prevent puckering and slipping while you're embroidering. There are a variety of types out there. Some are papery and are torn away from the embroidery when you're done. Only use that on the back side of the embroidery, as it's almost impossible to get it all off. Others are also papery and also tear away but are dissolvable in cold water, leaving only a few easy-to-remove fibers in the embroidery. Your authors like this type of stabilizer. There is also a transparent plastic-like stabilizer which dissolves completely in water. Your authors have this but haven't tried it yet, but hear it's very nice. It's expensive though.
    • Fabric... of course. Make sure that your embroidery hoop fits on the piece you're going to embroider on. If the piece is to be small, you may want to embroider before cutting the piece from the fabric.
    • Thread. Contrary to popular belief, you can use ordinary polyester all-purpose thread to embroider, but it can weaken the fabric you're embroidering on. (If you do use polyester, you may want to fuse some interfacing to the back of your embroidery when you're done.) There is plenty of gorgeous 100% rayon embroidery thread available.
    • Thread for the bobbin. This won't be seen on the surface, so you can use anything you want. Trying to find a way to get rid of that day-glo orange thread you can't remember why you bought? Stick it in the bobbin when you embroider. Some embroiderers feel that it's best to use a softer thread (like 100% cotton) in the bobbin so as to reduce the possibility that the bobbin thread will break the embroidery thread, but your authors haven't had a problem with this to date.
  2. How do I prepare the machine and fabric for free machine embroidery? Drop the feed dogs and set the stitch length at zero. (If you can't set the stitch length at zero, don't panic, it's not that important.) Install the fabric in the embroidery hoop (with any stabilizer[s] you intend to use) so that the surface of the fabric is at the *bottom* of the hoop. (Note that if you're used to embroidering or cross stich by hand, this means you're putting the fabric in the hoop backwards.) When you place the hoop on the table such that the fabric surface rests on the table, the right side of the fabric should face up. Install the embroidery foot or special embroidery needle with spring on the sewing machine. If you're using the special needle, remove the presser foot. Place the embroidery hoop in the sewing area. (Some machines can't lift the presser foot enough to admit some hoops - you may have to remove the presser foot temporarily, position the hoop, and then re-install the presser foot if you're using one.) Set the sewing machine for a straight stitch. Reduce the upper tension until stitches interlock below the fabric instead of above or inside it.
  3. How do I lock the thread at the beginning and end of my embroidery so it doesn't begin to unravel? Make several stitches in place to lock the thread.

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