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Red light for beans

I have a Saeco Vienna black and had problems with the grinder running till I got the red light. Followed instructions on thread 1530432. Noticed a lot of damp grinds probably from beans that were too oily. Thoughly cleaned grinder and shoots, made sure everything was nice and dry. It seems the dots and lines didnt really line up as written from beginning but still followed directions as written. I have a red dot on outside of ring and one on inside with a blue line. Put everything back together and now when I turn on, no grinding, no noise I just get a red light for the beans. I've had the machine a little over a year and love it. Just wish I could make more than 1- 8 ounce of cup of coffee at one time. Other than that it's a great machine. Thanks so much in advance for any help.

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My problem stemmed from grinder being clogged.
Some helpful remedies I found on your site lead me to the find the above problem but instructions were just difficult to follow till I found a pdf file online with pictures.

http://www.cerinicoffee.com/custompages/Tech/Veinna_Grinder_Cleaning_setting.pdf

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Figure 1 Figure 2 Figure 3
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I think so, most problem with that the grinder grind to the lamp light up is damp in the grinder or oily beans.

if you have two adjustment knob in the bean hopper then the second problems can be the micro switch in the machine that have to be replaced.

Best regards
/Mirran

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