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Intermittant brewing Our Magic deluxe was looking good for about 1 year and then...... the grind sounds good, then the nysterious noises (no worries there, just don't know what they are... coffee elves compressing the espresso?, then the pump. The sound is kinda loud for the this part GRRRRRRRRR and the first light of the vertical column of lights goes on, then the second and then the pump sound, which started at "kinda loud"..... falls to a very low grrrrrrrrrr.. and the coloumn lights still go for the full time but nothing comes out. Finishes with the gounds, knocks them out and we got.... nothing. And the odd thing, at some point here, the water light comes on even though it's full. This is intermittent but once it doesn't work, it doesn't work that day at all. Maybe the next day.... Help..... it's too calm around here.... we need coffee... Thanks...

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  • Sunward Nov 04, 2007

    Uh oh...adding this to the problem. Just tried the saeco again to confirm the sequence of events.... It goes one light, two lights on the the vertical column and then.....that's it... no more lights. After a time, it stops, ejects the grounds then shows....water light, even though there is plenty of water...


  • danab Dec 12, 2007

    Mine is doing something similar... look at the first solution I got yesterday to check the brew chamber. The flashing light will go away if you dispense water through the hot water / steam nozzle. I read in the manual that happens (flashing light) if you get air in the water line, but I know that's not the case for me cause my water level is fine as well. Running water out the nozzle seems to be the temporary fix.

    I still have steam and hot water, do you?



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This one sounds fun.

If the noise is extremely load. The gears are stripped in the gear drive behind the brew group. The gears themselves are plastic.

Bad news is it has to be sent to a service center, replacing and realigning the gears to the brew drive is extremely difficult, and i just wouldn't recommend it being fumbled with.

Even my tech, who has 10 years experience hates realigning the gears. Takes about an hour if not more.

Now...for the reason the gears stripped. Its one of 2 things, but they revolve around the same problem

A puck got stock inside the brew group, and when it made a second cup, both got lodged, and the brew group tried to force it and killed the gears.

Its either that or your coffee is ground too fine for the machine. Yes, the machine can grind it too fine. Actually, anything under 2 is not recommended because 90% of the time it leads to this problem.

I'm sorry there isn't an easier fix, its just the nature of the beast.

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