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Does a Catalytic converter effect idle and emissions?

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Yes it is part of emissions ---if clogging will choke motor and can cause stalling to a no start --also the cat converter has o2 sensors before and after which read the exhaust gasses and adjust the vehicles performance as well as other sensors but check with ford dealer cat converters have a different [their is a difference with the warranty] longer than standard warranty dont know what your warranty is [extended -under 100,000 miles,etc] but call and check with a dealer about your cat converter .

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    in and of it self, it (CAT) does not effect idle, unless it leaks air. The cat does not control the front oxygen sensors , unless cracked "breached" you question opens up, all possible failure modes of just the cat, my answer is just the cat, not the exhaust pipes, not the gaskets ,just the cat, if the cat is not cracked, the car will run perfeclty infact you can gut a cat , inside and it will run prefectly (on very old cars this can kill the EGR) but not this car.. (emissions is a total other answer and easy) Are you just curious , or does your engine run bad? if it runs bad why not post the symptoms and ask for help and not guess. The idle can be bad for a vast number if reasons. and is not effect to list all 50 ways, we works symptoms and do tests to stay on track and not waste time, or parts.

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The CAT is 100% for emissions and nothing else, beside catching tall weeds on fire and making stinky smells. .
why not post symptom and stop guessing>?
The modern three way CAT reduces, 3 types of toxic gases.
thus the name. (ill not list them an bore you)

IDLE, yes and no.! (fact)
yes, if the cat got red hot and melted, yes, it clogs the exhaust up and engine idle drops and or stalls. that 06 for CEL lamp flashing
means, you are burning up that $1000 CAT. RTM the operators guide tells you that and what to do.........
No, a good cat NEVER effects idle ever.

my wild guess, is your idle has issues.
like:
1: idles too low. not 800 spec. hot.
2: idles to high.
3: idle regulation is non existent.
4: or is a cold idle issue, I sure can't guess can I.

The ECU controls idle at all times, if it can't that is #1 top clue.
why not post the symptoms... why not?

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Yes it does effect emissions and the decisions from o2 sensors are relayed to the computer which can change idle

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