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Changing inner drum

I believe, one of the three supports on the back of inner tub has broken. I have split the outer drum halves, but now I can't remove inner tub from rear half of outer drum. Bearing seams OK, so I don't want to buy whole new assembly. Do I need any special tools to get inner tub out? How I can do it anyway? Thanks

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  • DIYrookie Nov 04, 2007

    Yes, I removed drive pulley and yes, I did use a piece of wood and a hummer (although a small one). I even applied Liquid Wrench around shaft and kept it for couple hours. I was not sure if I'm on a right way, because :
    1. shaft is still inside bearing
    2. if it's so tight how will I insert new tub with new shaft inside the bearing ?



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You must be fairly competent to have got this far! So! it now needs a bit of brute force. I assume you have removed the drive pulley? Now lay the unit down, 'pulley side uppermost', support the outer tub from the floor with a couple of bricks at either side to give floor clearance to the inner tub, use a piece of hard wood (to protect the shaft end) and give the wood a HARD BLOW with a 4 pound hammer. The shaft is just 'stuck' in the bearings. Dont mess around tapping the shaft end with a small hammer, you will only bruise the shaft end. As they WOULD say around here

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Hi I found these, I have the same problem but I am taking the easy way out, BIN IT!!!
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