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Reboots and crashes

Got a GeForce 6200 (Asus N6200) 128MB card yesterday. Replaced my old GeForce4 MX440-card with the 6200 (after uninstalling previous drivers), got the latest drivers from nVidia's website and installed them. Everything worked fine. Logged on to WoW and after a little while my LCD (G15) indicated that the card was running at about 59c.

The framerate was horrible, and I had lots of flickering textures, objects, and user interface elements. I also had weird lockups where the system would freeze for seconds at a time. That kept on for as long as I was online. Logged off, and went to sleep. Today I went to the store where I bought the card, got a fan to cool the 6200 card. Installed it tonite, logged on to WoW, same problems.

Here I also disconnected a ZIP-drive I had in the PC to provide even better airflow.

Also noticed that logging off would take longer. Not the "Windows is closing" box, but after that the desktop would be visible for about 30 seconds before closing.

After a lot of rebooting, upgrading (or rather downgrading) of drivers I logged on to WoW to test the graphics again. No change. All off a sudden, the sound in my speakers just starts beeping. High pitched and constant. Exits WoW, beeping sound stops. Logs back on, beeping sound returns.

I restarted again, realized I had no startup sound. Checked the list of devices, sound card was there. Tried the sound test, no output. Did driver upgrades from Creative's web site, no luck. Uninstalled the card, rebooted and installed new drivers, no luck. Logged on to WoW just for the sake of it. Framerate is all of a sudden excellent. Game runs great...

...for about 5 minutes that is. Then I get the regular lockups again, with a reboot following. After startup I get a message about windows recovering from a hardware error, the driver for "NVIDIA GeForce 6200 by TweaksRUs2" is the reason behind it, and it apparently couldn't complete a drawing operation.

This happened several times, last time my sound card magically re-appeared, but i still have got no sound output.

The sound card is a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy. There have been some quirks with it, but never any loss of sound after constant beeping.

My PSU is a 250W one. The BIOS system stats shows that the PSU fan is running at about 1700RPM, indicated in red. The PSU still provides a steady flow of cool air.

The flashing is unrelated to the GPU core temperature. The initial "effects" occured when the GPU was at about 50c. Idle temperature is normally at about 40c, and the reboots and lockups occur at 44-48c, i.e. normal values.

I have one rear fan for exhaust, one in the front for intake, and one mounted next to the card that pushes air out through a card slot. There is also a fully working CPU fan, and the fan in the PSU. Idle temp for CPU and MB is about 35/35, and working temperature (f.ex. when on WoW) is about 57/39.

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  • Noccy Nov 03, 2007

    The Device Manager tells me there are no conflicts relating to neither audio or video. Visually, the audio card works great: you just can't hear anything. And, the GeForce 6200 card works fine in Windows. If I boot WoW it won't survive more than 3-5 minutes before it locks up and reboots.

  • Noccy Nov 04, 2007

    It's on IRQ 9 together with several other devices. Both soundcard, video card, my external Promise Ultra133 TX2 IDE controller, the USB controller, and my 3Com Etherlink XL nic. Nothing indicates a conflict however, and I am furthermore unable to change any of the resource settings.

  • Noccy Nov 04, 2007

    I just did. Tried the only available slot to no avail. The soundcard isn't even detected now. I can just assume that it's dead and I have to replace it :( Any idea on the GPU issues? I did some googling, as it turns out the stop message I'm getting is related to a thread lockup in the driver, most probably related to faulty hardware. Should I try to claim warranty?

  • Noccy Nov 05, 2007

    Got a new 6200 and a new sound card today. Plugged them in, and the same problems appear almost instantly. I also got another audio cable to connect my laptop, and now both inputs on the amp give me a humming sound that's way above 50HZ. The sound i'd say is about 300-400HZ and "pulsing". This only happens when both systems are connected to the amp, if I pull the sound cable from either system it stops. This is yet another indication that the PSU might be behind it, right?

    I read somewhere that bad PSU:s when under heavy load tend to give out a lot of "dirty power". Could this be what killed my Audigy card?

    Just wanted to squeeze in that I really appreciate the help and effort :) This is an awesome site, and I'll be sure to refer it to friends in need of professional support. I used to do hardware a lot of years ago, but gave it up for software (currently working as a software developer).



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A few things you can try:
1. If the sound card Creative SoundBlaster Audigy is an add-on card and your mb has a built-in soundcard, perhaps you have to disable it in the CMOS/BIOS and not only in Device Manager;
2. Verify that there are no IRQ conflicts or sharing between the Creative SoundBlaster Audigy and the GeForce 6200. Alternately, you can try switching the soundcard to another slot;
3. Verify that the mb allocates IRQ 5 for the sound card in the CMOS/BIOS.
4. It might be worth your while also to upgrade your PSU from 250 to something higher (even a 500 probably).

Hope this be of some help/idea. Post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.

Good luck and kind regards.

Posted on Nov 03, 2007

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    Louie Role Nov 04, 2007

    What IRQ is the sound card using?

  • Louie  Role
    Louie Role Nov 04, 2007

    Have you tried switching the soundcard to another slot?

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    Louie Role Nov 05, 2007

    Warranty claim might be your best opt considering. May I suggest another brand/model, it would seem that for some reason the 6200 is not 100% compatible or just plain have bugs/issues with your system. You may need to add a a few more $ but that would seem better than constant crashing.

    Though I would still suggest you change likewise your PSU to something higher than 250.

  • Louie  Role
    Louie Role Nov 06, 2007

    Appreciate the "squeeze"

    Underpowered Power Supply can result in a lot things which can include (but may not be limited to):
    noise which can be picked up by the audio amp. One must keep in mind that the comp PSU is switchmode (AC to DC to AC to DC; Your AC mains @ 60Hz to 200 or 400 VDC oscillated to anywhere from a few hundred Hz to 1 or higher KHz then to +5, +12 , -5, -12 and the other DC voltages needed by the motherboard and devices.
    Though this should not be heard on your external amp if just the laptop is connected.
    Pulsing is the capacitor charging/discharging cycle which affects the working frequency of the PSU (think of it as Amplitude Modulation (AM) in its simplest analogy).
    Power deprivation, some components would be getting less and less voltage/current once other devices draws from an underrated PSU. An example is the blower fan of the CPU's heatsink which runs at 12VDC. If say your HD runs constantly (swap file) while your display is showing heavy graphics with continuous audio decoding while being connected via your networking card, one can imagine the load the entire system is demanding from your 250watt power supply.
    Additionally, constant high demand in power can cause connectors, jumpers and pins to "cook" which eventually develops into a corrosion that is translated into resistance. This can lead to overheating of power connectors and obviously adjacent components.

    Since you used to be in the hardware before, you would agree with me that the 250watt standard was during the PI, PII and early PIII models. Further your use of a 6200 (8X, I presume) for gaming indicates that you have fairly a modern PC which at the very least should have the 300watt starter standard or better the 450watt PSU.

    If I may re-suggest, why not try another brand/model in lieu of the 6200 when replacing.

    In some extreme cases, a BIOS flash solve heat, dropout, rebooting issues with some motherboards.




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