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Beggining of loop missing on FIRST playback only, on Boss RC-50.

My problem arose during a simple test of my new rc-50. While recording one basic loop on a blank phrase and patch, it is missing the first split second on the first playback. The strange thing is on the second playback and so on, it does not miss the first split second. It is enough to make it sound like I played out of time the first time around, like I hit the pedal too soon. But, evidently I didn't as hey presto, the missed bit is back the second and subsequent times the loop is repeated. Also, when I try the same test on my trusty old rc-20 there is no problem.

I am an experienced looper, and have eventually managed to contact boss uk customer support. They suggest installing a software update so that I can change the "sound priority mode" to "priority given to sound". Rather than "priority given to rhythme".

How you do this, on a machine with updated software, so I am told, is to hold down either phrase 1 or 2 BUTTON, while turning the unit on. The change should then show in the lcd display. Can anyone with updated software verify this? Or are they having me on?

BTW, I am using no quantize or so on to mess the loops up. As I have been doing it for years succesfully by stamping in time on my old pedal. Nothing in the manual seems to solve this.

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  • Dan Hickin Oct 07, 2015

    I forgot all about this, it must be very old! However I have something to add. I have continued to use the RC 50 as it's ability to pre-arm loops is a very useful feature for fast loop building, rather then what you hear from many when it takes them an age just to get a basic verse section down etc. If anyone is interested, I can elaborate - it involves using external switches too. As for the split second of silence when laying down the first loop - one way around this is to pre-record silence on the loop at the desired tempo and overdub on top of it. Is used with the guide sent via the sub out only to headphones, you could let one measure play through then hit overdub on the 1 beat and start recording your first loop. Not ideal I know. I just put up with the silence issue but try to mask it with my playing these days, either trying to play a little bit over the silence (playing the very start of the loop again on first repeat) or, on some pieces, a dramatic slide down the guitar neck can distract from the silence. For some of the techniques above, take a look at my youtube channel. It is loopcyclemusic. I am on FB under that name too. My pieces show how you can build multi loop pieces of music fast with different sections in a piece and lots of variation.

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Ok, solved this problem by visiting roland U.S. site as the help offered in this country is useless. The instructions given by email would not have worked even after the update was installed. Luckily, there are instructions that come with the download. If you have same problem as me go to http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=772&tab=downloads&skip=true

and update the opperating system on the RC-50 to RC-50 System Update Version 1.01.

Then hold loop sync and phrase 2 button (think it was phrase 2) to change it to sound priority mode. Then it will play back correctly what you recorded on the first loop, rather than missing the first beat.

Am v.happy I have found this, as after much searching I can't find any other loopers out there that offer 3 seperate loop tracks and the ability to switch between them effectively. Plus, it's a very convenient size, better than a load of rackmounted stuff to haul around.

However.....

Another problem..

When hitting the reverse switch ( I assigned both external footswitch and the onboard Tempo pedal to reverse) the change is not instanteaneous. There is a second or so delay before it plays in reverse. Not a problem for most, I suppose, but I have a piece that switches rythmicaly between playing forward and reverse which means hitting a pedal in time and reverse/forwards changing immediately. I think they could do with another software update to solve this. Now I have to keep room in my enormous pedal board for the old rc-20, as that does the reverse as it should - when you hit the flippin switch!

Posted on Jun 20, 2009

  • essene Jul 13, 2011

    i have same problem with danhickin.

    i read ur solution, i updated 1.01 and press loop sync and phrase 2 button.

    but nothing happend.!!

    1. press loop sync button phrase2 button same time?

    2. u mean `small` phrase 2 button? right? (not the big one for foot..)

    3. if it works any sign on lcd will appear?

    give me more detailed information plz.

    thx.

  • alniko May 25, 2013

    Did you solve this problem? Mine doesn't change either, and I really don't know why...

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Mine don't change eather, I've done all the instructions, but nothing happens. Please, somebody, help

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