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Air in system,turn the pump on air bubbles come out of pool water jets,not good suction

Changed the "O" ring on basket part still not good suction

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Try the shaft seal?

Otherwise, you have a suction air leak somewhere on the suction side of the pump. That means somewhere between the front of the pump all the way back to the pool.
The easiest to check, least expensive and the most common, will be broken thread sealant on any 'threaded' fitting, bad O-rings or seals in valves and unions, or you have a crack in your plumbing. And... It may be underground. Good Luck

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 19, 2009

SOURCE: pool pump won't prime

check for air leaks, cover o-ring is common culprit. anything in front of pump can cause this.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 05, 2009

SOURCE: Pool pump will not fill back up

It sounds like you are sucking air into the pump. Make sure strainer baskets and pump baskets are clear, and the valves are in the right position. Also check the water level in the pool, and make sure that the pump is not sucking the skimmer dry. Next try lubricating the gasket on the pump lid, or if it is in bad shape (flattened/cracking) replace it. If this does not solve the problem put silicone around the inlet to the pump (silicone is a temporary fix that could last days or months--for best results replumb with teflon tape and sealant). If all that fails you could have debris stuck in the impeller.

Samuel Phillips

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  • Posted on Apr 24, 2009

SOURCE: suction with my pump

First thing to check is the removal of any winterizing plugs in the return lines. Sometimes plugs are fitted inside the lines in the pool making them not obvious. Secondly, check that any valves in return line are open. Many never lube type valve handles are oppositely positioned as compared to ball valves. If the multiport valve hasn't been tampered with, then there really is no other place to look. The flows everywhere but back to pool.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 02, 2009

SOURCE: I cannot get the pump to pump water, motor still works.

Sounds like air has gotten into the pump and froze the pump. It will need to be replaced due to that reason. You can get a repair kit for the pump but it will not be gaurenteed to work

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Sep 04, 2009

SOURCE: air in filter on hayward above ground pool.

This is common the first 30-60 seconds after turning the filter on. The filter is purging its self of the air, sometimes algae or small debris will shoot back into the pool as well.

If it is constantly getting air then replace your o-ring on the that clear cover (Strainer Cover) make sure you use a lubricant, and like djtc66 said re-wrap all threaded areas with teflon tape.

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