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I have a tankles hot water heater. The problem is

I have a tankles hot water heater. The problem is the bathroom faucets have to be turned on all the way to get hot water and the kitchen sink never gets hot water unless you use the sprayer. If you turn flow down at the faucet the hot water will stop. With low flow the heater will turn off. Is this a water pressure issue?

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If this ia a Chronomite Tankless Electric water heater we suggest you call our technical service department at 800/447-4962 for assistance.

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This is a problem they didn;t tell any one about, there is a min of 1 gpm that you have to run for it to sence for the unit to come on, if not the unit will not detect the water is even runnig there for will not come on,, as for the kit faucet, it might have a temp control and it may need to have a cartridge change, the water comming from the tankless is nothing like the old tank heater, the water only losses aprox 1 or 2 degree where a tank heater losses almost 5 or more because of the way the cold water is fed into the unit,, thats whay the sprayer works and the faucet doesn't ,, you have control on the sprayer unlike turning the faucet on,,

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