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How do I replace a tool-less chain tensioning bar with a standard bar

The tool-less chain tensioning bar is no longer available and I need to replace it with a standard bar. What do I need to do this?

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    Stephen Nyirady Mar 25, 2014

    To clarify, I have a Craftsman Model 36015 chain saw that has one of these Tool-less chain tensioning system. The chain bar is bent and needs to be replaced by Sears but the bar is no longer available. I would like to convert the saw to a standard bar but not sure what parts I will need to do that since the cover plate on the saw has the tensioning knob on it. How do I convert the saw to using a normal bar?

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Find a poulan dealer in your area, it should cost you around 75 bucks for a bar and a "normal" bar chain cover.

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    Bay distributes in North Bay ont. can find a dealer for ya

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SOURCE: Chain falling off on small load

New bar and chain should do the trick. ONCE IT GETS A LITTLE DULL T BUILDS UP HEAT AND STRETCHES. Use a good quality case hardened chain they last longer and are well worth the extra money.

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SOURCE: poulan pro with tooless chain tightening - chain will not stay on

i have a 4620 poulan that had the same problem. use it for 10 minutes, spend 15 minutes reinstalling the chain. i sent poulan an email threatening to sue them and they decided to send me the parts to change it over to the old style for free. try poulan.com

Posted on Apr 27, 2009

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SOURCE: Chain keeps falling off bar afterwhen saw is

Reinstall the chain. Do NOT connect power. Mark one link (chalk, crayon, etc.) wear gloves and try to rotate the chain one complete revolution. Is this possible? No - remove the chain and remove burrs from the sides of the drive links with a flat file.
3893c9d.jpg An IPL for your saw can be found here:
Remington.com
http://shoppingcart.msservicecompany.com/Default.aspx
Enter "111409" in the "Search for your unit by Model #:" window. Click search. Click "View Model" Click "View Illustrated Parts Diagram"

Yes - inspect the sprocket gear (KEY NO. - 11) pn 111363-01 new pn 122520-01 NLA, is it deeply grooved or perhaps worn through?

I'm going to get smacked as I have so many times before. The only thing RemingtonPower is producing today is unhappy customers. Replacement parts are exhausted. we aren't affiliated and had nothing to do with their decision to stop production.

Burrs on the chain or a defective sprocket are the most likely causes of your problem. If the gear is bad, there are no replacement parts available and I cannot help you further except to recommend you purchase a name brand replacement. Select a company you think will have replacement parts when you need them sometime in the future.
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Chain adjustment

  1. Make sure the chain brake is off (gloves will protest your fingers).
  2. If necessary, loosen the bar nuts that are clamping the clutch cover in place (or whatever holds the clutch cover and bar on). They don't need these really loose - finger tight will do.
  3. Ease the tension adjustment until the chain is obviously loose.
  4. Using one hand, hold the nose of the bar up.
  5. While holding the nose up, adjust the tensioner so that the center of the chain just touches the underside of the bar, add a touch more.
  6. Continue holding the nose of the bar up & tighten up the bar nuts / bolts / quick-release system.
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Posted on Nov 02, 2009

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SOURCE: I have a MAC 3516 and need a replacement bar and

Hello Eric, You can get an Oregon brand bar and chain that will work perfectly on your Mac 3516. I have this same chainsaw and keep a spare bar and chain, so I can quickly swap them out, should they get damaged, etc.

The Oregon bar and chain part numbers are as follows:

#100457 (Bar & chain combo pack)

You can also find these sold at most Home Depot, Lowe's and other hardware stores that carry chainsaws, as Oregon makes their replacement bar and chains to fit all the major brands available.

Unless your existing bar and chain are completely galled up, scored or bent/busted beyond repair, I would find a small engine repair shop or local hardware store that sharpens chainsaw cutting chains, (True Value and Ace do it in our area) and see if they can sharpen and true up the bar. The price for this is typically about 1/3 to 1/2 the price of a new chain and bar set, and worth having a spare around.

I also like having that extra aleady to use (sharp) chain, so when a neighbor borrows my saw and invariably lets the chainsaw go into the dirt (that'll dull the chain so fast!). I will always be able to use my saw, when I need to, without having to run out and get a replacement, or spend 15 minutes having to sharpen it by hand, etc.

I hope you find this Very Helpful and best regards!

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SOURCE: i have a 235e husqvarna with tool-less chain

Any weekday between 1300 and 1600, stop by McNasties, buy 2 premium coffees (one black). Continue on to your friendly neighborhood Husky dealer (leave the saw in the car) and present him with the coffee. Discuss the problem you are having and ask for his help. It appears to be possible to replace the tool-less setup with the tried and true version. I estimate $20-30. Probably less than repair cost for your current arrangement.
Is not new and improved wonderful? We found a way to simplify manufacture, use fewer parts, and negatively impact how well our product performs... You pay more!
This may also help Mr McKenna:
HusqvarnaUSA.com http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/support/download-manuals/
Enter the 3 digit model number (no XPs, Es, just the numbers)
Serial number decode – useful when downloading IPLs and Manuals
06 1500198
06 = year produced – 2006 (single digit before 2000)
15 = week produced - March
00198 = 198th unit Husky produced that week.
I hope this was helpful.
Lou

Posted on Jan 21, 2010

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How to change a chain


First of all, make sure the saw is off. Also, before removing bolts, make sure the chain brake is not engaged (the chain should move freely).
Remove the guide bar side panel. Using a scwrench or wrench, unscrew the nuts and remove the plate to access the chain.

The side plate on most chainsaws will be held on by two nuts. Loosen the blade adjustment screw (a pin that is usually driven by a screw and pushes the blade out from the chainsaw to keep the chain tension tight).

The old chain is ready to be removed now that the sprocket plate is off of the saw. Pull the nose of the chainsaw's bar away from the chainsaw to release it from the tensioner.

Remove the old chainsaw chain.

The chain will easily remove from the guide bar with all that slack in it. Note the orientation of the cutting edges of the chain so you put the new one on the same way.

Pull the drive links out of the guide bar and slip the other end of the chain around the clutch drum.

Steps to Install a New Chainsaw Chain
Thread the new chain onto the saw.

Carefully thread your new or recently sharpened chainsaw chain around the chainsaw's clutch drum, making sure that the drive links engage in the sprocket.



Thread the rest of the drive links into the guide bar and around its nose, making sure all links are in the guide bar slot.
Align the guide bar.

With the chain properly threaded along the clutch drum and guide bar, put some tension into it by pulling on the nose of the guide bar away from the chainsaw.



While pulling the guide bar, make sure to seat it onto the saw's adjustment pin.

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Replace the side plate.

The side plate is ready to go back on as long as the guide bar is properly positioned beneath.

Replace the plate and the nuts that hold it into position, but do not tighten the nuts down all the way yet. The guide bar must be allowed to move a little while the chain is tightened to the correct tension.
Tighten the chain to the correct tension. Use the tensioning screw to the side of the guide bar to adjust the tension on the chainsaw chain.



Finish tightening the side plate nuts.

The chainsaw chain replacement is now complete.


And here is a great overall reference guide to keeping a chainsaw sharp and running. Sharpening a chainsaw chain is a great way to extend the life and is less expensive and easier than replacing a chain. There are small grinding tools (like a dremel) that can be run off a small 12v battery or your vehicle battery that allow for quick 'tune-ups' on your chain if you are out cutting and need to sharpen your chain.
http://www.pcta.org/pdf/STUCHAP2_web.pdf

Aug 28, 2011 | Husqvarna "Chain Saw - 16" Bar, 3 Hp

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I can not keep the chain on. I replaced the bar and chain. It work fine for about 2 hours. Then the chain came off and would not stay on.


If there is no damage to the chain or bar (shouldn't be any if you replaced them), then there seems to be some other possibilities:
1) The sprocket, that transfers power from the motor or engine to the chain, could be damaged so that it does not keep the chain in position
2) The bar is no longer perpendicular to the sprocket and housing for the motor/engine. If the bar is at an angle then the spinning forces would tend to slide the chain out of the slot in the bar.
3) The tension on the bar is not being maintained so that it slips out of the bar slot. You need to monitor this tension as you are working because the forces on the chain an bar tend to push the bar back into the housing, loosening the chain and making it susceptible to slippage.

Jul 26, 2011 | Poulan Pro 42CC 2 Cycle Chainsaw, 18"

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I cannot find my manual to my 18v cordless chainsaw ccs818. I need directions for putting the chain back on. I would like to download a copy of the manual.


Your manual can be found here:

http://www.blackanddecker.com/Manuals.aspx with pop-ups enabled then enter your model number
or
http://www.dewaltservicenet.com/documents/English/Instruction%20Manual/90560838,CCS818.pdf

See the instructions for replacing the chain on page 11. It makes reference to the figures on page 6 so that you know exactly what to remove.

Basically... loosen the bar allen screws. Remove the sprocket cover. Loosen the bar retaining bolts. Use a flat bladed screwdriver on the bar / chain tension screw to shorten the bar enough to install the chain. Then adjust the chain tensioner so that there is just a little slack in the chain at the bottom of bar between the drive sprocket and the bar. Tighten the bar retaining bolts install the cover / tighten all cover fasteners. (see details D and E page 6 of the 2nd link above.)

The steps below are copied from the manual.... I can not undo the formatting and can not post the figures here due to size restrictions..

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Replacing the Saw Chain

CAUTION: Sharp chain. Always wear protective gloves when

handling the chain. The chain is sharp and can cut you when it is

not running.

WARNING: Sharp moving chain. To prevent accidental

operation, insure that battery is disconnected from the tool

before performing the following operations. Failure to do this

could result in serious personal injury.

• Place the saw on a firm surface. Rotate the two allen head screws

(11) counterclockwise with the wrench (13) provided as shown in

figure E.

• To remove the saw chain (9), rotate the tension adjustment screw

(23) in the front of the housing using the flat screwdriver end of the

wrench (13) as shown in figure F. Turning the screw

counterclockwise allows the guide bar to recede and reduces the

tension on the chain so that it may be removed.

• Remove sprocket cover (10) and allen head screws (11).

• Lift the worn saw chain (9) out of the groove in the guide bar (8).

• Place new chain in groove of guide bar making sure saw teeth are

facing correct direction by matching arrow on chain with graphic on

housing shown in figure G.

• Place the saw chain and guide bar assembly around the sprocket

(19). Check to make sure that the slot (20) in the guide bar (8) is

over the two location pins (21) shown in figure E and that the hole

below the slot is located over the adjustment pin (22).

• Replace sprocket cover (10) and thread allen head screws (11) in

with wrench until snug, then back wrench off one full turn.

• Pull bar nose up and keep it up as you adjust tension.

• Rotate the tension adjustment screw (23) in the front of the housing

clockwise to increase the chain tension as in Figure F.

Follow instructions in "Adjusting Chain Tension" section.

• While still holding the bar nose up, securely tighten the rear allen

screw (11) first, then tighten the front allen screw.

• When the chain is new check the tension frequently (after

disconnecting battery) during the first 2 hours of use as a new chain

stretches slightly.

Adjusting Chain Tension

CAUTION: Sharp chain. Always wear protective gloves when

handling the chain. The chain is sharp and can cut you when it is

not running.

WARNING: Sharp moving chain. To prevent accidental

operation, insure that battery is disconnected from the tool

before performing the following operations. Failure to do this

could result in serious personal injury.

• With the saw still on a firm surface check the chain tension. The
tension is correct when the chain snaps back after being pulled

1/8 inch (3mm) away from the guide bar (8) with light force from the

middle finger and thumb as shown in figure H. There should be no

"sag" between the guide bar and the chain on the underside as

shown in figure I.

• To adjust saw chain tension, loosen the allen head screws (11).

• Rotate the tension adjustment screw (23) in the front of the housing

using the flat screwdriver end of the wrench (13) as shown in

figure F.

• Do not over-tension the chain as this will lead to excessive wear

and will reduce the life of the bar and chain. Overtensioning also

reduces the amount of cuts you will get per battery charge.

• Once chain tension is correct, tighten allen head screws (11).

• When the chain is new check the tension frequently (after

disconnecting battery) during the first 2 hours of use as a new chain
stretches slightly.

Nov 08, 2010 | Black & Decker Garden

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Chain will not move on chainsaw


Normal 0 This will be the basic instruction for most common saws. Check that the chain brake is in disengaged position by moving the front hand guard towards the front handle if the saw is equipped with a chain brake on the handle. Loosen the bar nuts on the clutch cover. Loosen tension screw or other adjuster (thumbscrew) to allow the bar to be moved toward the engine. Some saws have this tension adjustment built into the bar. This will provide enough slack in the chain to able to reinstall it. It may be necessary to remove the side cover to gain access to the clutch/gear assembly on the side of the engine if the chain also jumped the gear here. Remove the cover, inspect for any debris or other obstructions in this area. If none, replace the chain back over the drive gear and in the bar groove all the way around the bar. It may be necessary to turn the bar adjuster screw more to provide enough slack in the chain to do this. Once the chain is in place reinstall the cover and bar lock nuts. Snug up the nuts but do not tighten these. Turn the bar/chain adjuster screw to tighten the chain on the bar (take up slack). I usually tighten to a point where there is no slack between the chain and the bottom of the bar and I can still turn the chain easily around the bar by hand. With experience you will get the feel for this chain tension. Once the chain is properly tensioned, tighten the bar lock bolts/ nuts on the side cover.


Some Poulan Pros have an adjuster screw on the front of the engine case right beside the bar, some have a tool less adjuster on the clutch cover, and some have a slot in the bar for adjusting the chain tension.


I hope this helps you out.

May 15, 2010 | Poulan Pro 42CC 2 Cycle Chainsaw, 18"

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Chain on a Husqvarna comes loose and/or off...once and awhile the tightening nut seems that it won't tightening down and stay


First, if the chain is getting hot it will get longer making it seem like it is loosening up, if this is the case turn up the chain oil adjustment, and make sure that you loosen it up before you store it as the chain will shorten as it cools and can put a lot of stress on the engine bearings.

Next, If it is a new chain they can stretch as they break in, you will have to keep adjusting it for a while as this happens.

Finally, the two nuts that hold the bar on the saw should be plenty to keep the chain tight. if the bar is moving inwards you might be putting too much stress on the chain, try getting your chain sharpened by a pro at a saw dealer or cutting a bit slower if it is sharp, you know let the saw do the work.

Be careful, the chain coming off can really ruin your day.

Mar 04, 2010 | Poulan PP4218AV 18" Chain Saw

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I have a 435 side tensioning and after around 30min of use the side mounting slackens cousing the chain to come off damaging the chain


What is happening is the chain is heating, and expanding.
Make sure you have a full tank of oil, and the recommened blade for your saw.
Also make sure the bolt(s) are not damaged on your adjuster.

Feb 07, 2010 | Husqvarna "Chain Saw - 16" Bar, 3 Hp

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Putting chain on saw


I am assuming your saw has an outboard clutch (most Macs do).
Please see page 16 here:
http://weborder.husqvarna.com/order_static/doc/HOUS/HOUS2005/HOUS2005_1140247-95.pdf
It is possible to install it backward look colsely at the orientation in the second illustration from the bottom, left column.
New chains stretch Please for your safety watch it and tighten when needed.
Chain Adjustment
  1. Make sure the chain brake is off (gloves will protest your fingers).
  2. If necessary, loosen the bar nuts that are clamping the clutch cover in place (or whatever holds the clutch cover and bar on). They do not need these really loose - finger tight will do.
  3. Ease the tension adjustment until the chain is obviously loose.
  4. Using one hand, hold the nose of the bar up.
  5. While holding the nose up, adjust the tensioner so that the center of the chain just touches the underside of the bar, add a touch more.
  6. Continue holding the nose of the bar up & tighten up the bar nuts / bolts / quick-release system. HTH
Lou

Jan 16, 2010 | Standard Oregon Chainsaw Chain For...

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I have an 18 inch bar and the chain has to be tightened every few minutes. I tighten the nuts against the bar as tight as I can but the bar must still be moving to loosing the chain. Do I need to add lock...


There is an adjusting pawl with a screw that does the tightening. The nuts only clamp the bar once the chain is tightened. The adjusting screw is in the plane of the bar. The pawl may have disengaged the bar or may have broken.

Jan 01, 2010 | Poulan PP4218AV 18" Chain Saw

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How do i loosen chain on my poulan 46cc 20 inch chainsaw ?


Is it fitted with a tool less adjustment device? See Operator's Manual. Normal configuration as below:

d914aed.gif Chain adjustment
  1. Make sure the chain brake is off (gloves will protest your fingers).
  2. If necessary, loosen the bar nuts that are clamping the clutch cover in place (or whatever holds the clutch cover and bar on). They don't need these really loose - finger tight will do.
  3. Ease the tension adjustment until the chain is obviously loose.
  4. Using one hand, hold the nose of the bar up.
  5. While holding the nose up, adjust the tensioner so that the center of the chain just touches the underside of the bar, add a touch more.
  6. Continue holding the nose of the bar up & tighten up the bar nuts / bolts / quick-release system. HTH
Lou

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How to tighten chain on tool less e series 450 husqvarna chain saw


Crack the bar nuts loose then tighten the Bar adjuster screw. Once proper tension is achieved, re-tighten bar bolts.

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