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20 amp AFCI

The test button will not work on the breaker

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The breaker has gone bad . You no longer have arc fault protection .

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Hi James, I'm an electrician and will try to help you out with this problem.

An AFCI combination breaker is a type that will open a circuit when either condition exists: (1) A sustained current (in amps) load greater than 80% of the breaker's rating is present for a predetermined length of time. Your 15 amp breaker should hold a 12 amp load 24 hours / day; but a 13 amp load may only be passed for several hours - a 15 amp load only a few minutes or a 17 amp load only a few seconds and (2) Whenever the internal circuitry of the breaker sees load disturbances that mimic an arcing short circuit as programmed by the manufacturer.

Since you have lowered the load on the circuit in question, it is probably not an overload condition, but rather a problem with the remaining items on the circuit or wiring in the home. I suspect that you did not remove the lamps from the fixtures and wonder if you you are using CFL (compact fluorescent lamps) in them. Some CFLs and regular fluorescent lamps can "look" like an arcing short (esspecially when fisrt turned on) and cause a false positive for this condition. Remove any / all florescent lamps (or leave the switches off). Also, make sure any motor loads are disconnected, too. The motors that have "brushes" (looks like little sparks inside) can have the arcing signature that the AFCI thinks is a problem. Once you've cleared all these items, try again.

If it still won't hold, you may have a bad AFCI breaker. You should not attempt replacement if you do not know what you're doing in the panel. This will be your lowest cost fix. If the problem still won't go away, you're going to need to spend some time (or money on an electrician) checking all the connections at each outlet, switch, fixture, junction box, etc. to find the source of the fault. In rare instances, the fault may be a result of supporting staples being driven to hard during construction of the building.

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I'm an electrician and have a couple suggestions for a solution to your problem.

My first suggestion is to determine if the problem is with only one AFCI (Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter) circuit breaker. You should locate an outlet on another circuit in the same or nearby room by shutting off a different AFCI circuit breaker; once identified, power your TV from it (via extension cord, etc.). If the TV stays on, then the issue is specific to the original AFCI breaker the fed your TV. You should have the original AFCI breaker replaced.

Secondly, early AFCI circuit breakers had issues with some devices. If the problem continues to plague the TV, it is still possible that the AFCI breakers installed were not programmed at the factory with the info needed to identify the load from your particular TV as being acceptable. Changing the AFCI with an exact replacement may help this.

Lastly, contacting the TV and / or circuit breaker manufacturer with an explanation of the problem may provide a solution when the suggestions above do not solve the problem.

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I hope this helps & good luck!

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AFCI (arc fault circuit interrupter) devices such as yours rarely have a problem - but a trip indicates there's a problem with the circuit it is supplying. It like a fuse - they generally don't go bad by themselves - but do when there's a problem.

AFCI have the unique ability to detect arcing - or sparking. An arc or spark is very hot - and is a fire hazard. An AFCI can sense this condition before it is even seen - if it were in an exposed place that it could be seen and shuts off power. Arcing can occur at a loose connection, such as in a wirenut, terminal screw, etc. The AFCI can also detect when a cable support staple has been driven to deep and crushed through the cable insulation and is beginning to cause a high resistance short circuit. Because these problems often occur where they can't be seen, it is a labor intensive job to locate and repair the problem. Sometimes, entire sections of circuits must be re-fed due to the location of the fault. Due to the complexity of searching for the fault, you may want to call an electrician to clear the fault for you. You should not under any circumstances replace the AFCI with a standard circuit breaker or GFCI type circuit breaker. You may however, change it with an adjacent AFCI breaker to determine if the issue is with the circuit - or the AFCI. If the AFCI trips on the new circuit, you should accept that it has failed and should be replaced. If the problem stays in the same circuit, then the AFCI is good and the problem is in the circuit somewhere.

Here are a couple links to youtube videos that may help you understand the how and why of AFCI devices: video 1 and video 2. A link back to Siemen's site on AFCI is here.

I hope this helps and good luck. Please rate my reply - thanks!

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