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IBM Magstar 3570 Magstar Tape Drive

620-2181 and 3570-B01 Bad throughput

By jessie25 - usenet poster


Hi everyone,

A customer has the following problem:

When running SAVLIB *NONSYS or any other SAVLIB command on a 620 model 2181
and a 3570-B01 tape unit, the backup process seems to pause quite often.
It takes a couple of minutes to save a small library, but saving a program
library with
10.000 objects or a data library with MANY join LFs takes only a couple of
seconds.
The average throughput is far below the specifications.

The system is in restricted state when running the save operation and has
300 Mb+ to
perform the operation.

This is a bit vague problem, but has anyone experienced these problems?

thanks in advance
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Solution #1
posted on Aug 07, 2005
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Duke

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I was told by an IBM CE that when using that tape drive do not use data
compression on the save command.  The tape drive itself does the data
compress ion for you.  He said if you selected data compression it would
make the tape drive crawl.

Tim Shelton

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Solution #2
posted on Aug 07, 2005
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paulrmc

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hi marcel,

take a look at PSP on http://as400service.rochester.ibm.com.

If I remember there is HYPER PTF's for using 3570. (SF98019 : list of hyper
V4R1)

--
Frederic Faure

ETAPES informatique

F 77470 TRILPORT

fau @msn.com

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Solution #3
posted on Aug 07, 2005
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Mini Me

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We don't have a 3570, but we experienced the same symptoms with our 3590
drives.  It turns out that the bottleneck was not the tape drives, but the
AS/400.

We found two things that affected performance of the tape drive.  First, we
found that you need to keep the 6501 card for the tape drive on a separate
bus (if possible) from your 6512 disk controllers.  The second thing we
noticed is that the disk drives were struggling to keep up.  When we had the
3590 on a system with only 16 arms, the average utilization of each disk
drive was between 75-80% during a save/restore.  When we put it on a system
that had many more disk arms, we saw massive performance improvements, since
there are more arms to simultaneously access the data.

You may want to do a WRKDSKSTS to check this last part out.  Hope this helps
some.

Ray Sullivan
rsull @mfdg.nospam.com

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Solution #4
posted on Aug 07, 2005
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herself

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A good possibility is not the number of object, but the number of
members. A small library with a couple of source objects in it could
have many many members in the source object. Marking each member takes
time in OS/400. Look at your run light when the tape pauses.
--
R. Gilsdorf
AS/400 System Engineer
Sophisticated Systems Inc.
R @centuryinter.net

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