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Wiring intermatic pool timer

T104P/CD104 Intermatic 5 terminals, 2 pole
I have one red wire I didnt label and cant figure out where it goes. HELP!
5 terminals 5 colors blue-nothing, green-ground, white in terminal 1 & 3,
black in terminal 3, red in terminal 1 & 4, third red wire is lost with no home. I know this is a long shot but I cant get a pool guy out for a week.

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  • pnunez7 May 27, 2009

    Charlie



    The red wire is comming from the line source.



    Patti

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Need more info. The red wire you can't position: where does it "come from or go to"?



    Is it from source (line) or to pump (load)?



    Meanwhile, need to look for the labels: "Line" and "Load" on the timer connections. There should be two of each -- there should be a diagram on the inside of the door.



    Once you get me the additional info, I can help you hook it up.



    Charlie

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SOURCE: Bought an Intermatic T104 Timer for a 120v pool

T104 series intermatic timers are 208/230/277 volt clocks, not 120. I believe you have the wrong model and need a T101 series instead.

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SOURCE: clock does not turn on

make sure the small white wires coming from the clock itself are installed on the "line" side of the terminals, those power the clock. If not, the switch will power the pump but the clock will not run.

Posted on Sep 15, 2009

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2) These timers can be complicated. Both handle multiple voltages and can be wired many ways depending on load requirement, wire from breaker box.

3) Description of Load(s), voltage(s) and wiring is not described in question. Add a comment with specific information for detailed help.

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