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Cannot remove shower holding plate

We have very hard water, and I've been using my gaggia carezza machine for about a year now without thoroughly cleaning the brewgroup/shower plate, etc. (I know, bad!!). I do run hot water through it after every shot, as recommended, but it's plugged up and no water comes out of that part now. I've got all the parts removed (shower screen, bolts, etc.), but CANNOT get the shower holding plate removed! I'm afraid I'll break the thing, but it's wedged in there tight. The picture in the manual isn't very helpful, as I cannot tell where they are placing the edge of the flathead screwdriver. Help!!! Julia

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After removing the 2 allen wrench bolts in the holding plate, place the flathead screwdriver on the plate and using side of group as leverage lift. Check diagram belowcannot remove shower holding plate - 92b399a.jpg

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