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Frigidaire Laundry center blows circuit when w/d run at same time

I have a Frigidaire Laundry Center (from 2005-electric) and my electrical circuit blows every time the washer and dryer are run at the same time. Is this a fuse problem? Can I fix it myself, or should I hire someone? I have replaced a washer boot before but am no laundry appliance expert! Thank you!

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  • volkcj May 27, 2009

    I believe it just started happening. The unit has been installed for 3 years and I just learned about the problem 2 months ago. However, it is in a rental unit and it's possible that previous renters didn't let me know that it was occuring.



    Three years ago a washer and dryer were hooked up to the same electrical circuit and the circuit wasn't blowing (2 appliances). Can I check to see if I'm overloading the circuit by checking the circuit breaker? I think the w/d is the only thing on the circuit.



  • volkcj May 28, 2009

    The breaker is two toggles linked together and it is marked as '30'. I flipped the breaker and tried the lights and outlets in the adjacent areas and I don't think anything else is on the w/d circuit.



    As for model numbers, the best I could come up with is that it's a Frigidaire, HD, Ex-Large Capacity, 2 speed combo, 3/4 HP. I hope that's enough. I looked on the back and didn't find the model number (it was a rushed check--I could have missed it).



    I skimmed the warnings on the back and it mentioned that a 30amp circuit is the minimum circuit---so am I ok?



    Please advise...

    Thanks!

  • volkcj Jun 01, 2009

    There is only one cord coming from the back of the unit (it's one big one). I believe there are 2 outlets near the washer and dryer, but only one is in use with the 'large' cord.



    Also, it appears the breaker trips only after the washer is through filling. In other words, the unit can run for several minutes with loads in both the washer and dryer, but then the breaker trips and the loads can't finish.



    Thanks!

  • volkcj Jun 02, 2009

    I'm pretty sure it's not on a GFCI breaker. However, I am going off of memory as the unit is about 45 minutes away from me in a rental property.



    The washer can run through a complete cycle on its own, and the dryer can run through a complete cycle on its own as well. The problem only occurs when both the washer and dryer are run concurrently, and then only after the wash cycle is past the 'fill' stage.



    thanks again!

  • volkcj Jun 02, 2009

    This is a good summary. I've been contacting my previous tenants to figure out if this has always been a problem and it's appearing that it may just have been there from day 1. If the unit is overloading my circuit, should I be calling a w/d repairman or an electrician? Thank you so much--this has really helped, by the way. This stuff is not intuitive.

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Oops, and one more point of clarification: The washer runs by itself thru a complete cycle okay -- is that correct?

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Thanks for the info. I have my analysis written and ready to send to you, but, first, I need one more piece of info.



    Is the 30-amp breaker a GFCI breaker, i.e., does it have a push-to- test button on it?



    Charlie

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Another piece of info I need is does the breaker trip as soon as both units come on, or does it take a while before the breaker trips?

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    The breaker you identified is for a 220-volt 30-amp circuit -- this is the standard breaker for a dryer.



    The question would be is the 30 amp requirement you read for both units or for the dryer alone?



    This is a model which fits your description: GLEH1642FS Electric Washer/Dryer Combo



    This one has two cords, one for a 120volt circuit and one for a 220 volt circuit.





    We need this info:

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    Are there two outlets behind your unit?



    If there are two outlets, are both supplied by the 220 volt 30 amp breaker you identified? Or, are there two breakers?

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Yes, let's start there. Get the numbers off the breaker and let me know if the breaker has two toggles or one. Then give me the model number(s) of the w/d.



    You might also turn the breaker off and see if anything goes off but the w/d -- that would tell us if their is something else active on the circuit besides the w/d.

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs May 11, 2010

    Did this just start happening or is this a new installation?



    If this is a new installation, the problem is an overloaded circuit.

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Okay, here's the best I can do from this distance.

The combo unit is on a 30-amp, 220-volt circuit. One cord supplies both washer and dryer.

The breaker does not trip until the washer motor starts running simultaneous with the dryer drying.

My guess is that (if the combo unit is connected correclty to the one supply cord) the dryer motor runs off the 110 volt supplied by the red/white wires & the washer motor runs off the other 110 volt leg, black/white (could be vice-versa, but that's irrelevant).

The dryer heating element runs off the 220 volt supplied by the red/black wires.

There are two most likely causes (but not the only possibilities):

- The breaker is bad -- could just be oxidation on the breaker contacts in the bteaker box -- I havae seen this conditon -- small amounts of oxidation can cause the breaker to overheat and trip -- of course, the more current the load draws the hotter the breaker gets.

- One of the motors (washer or dryer) is beginnig to fail (windings beginning to short) and drawing more than rated current which is overloading the breaker.

Checking thes two theories requires some not-so-standard equipment, and some more-than-handyman expertise. And if neither of these theories pans out, the troubleshooting gets more complicated.

So, to address your original question, "Can I fix it myself, or should I hire someone?, I would say you should hire someone. This wirite-up may give them a head start.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Charlie

P.S.
A third possibility (only possible if this tripping condition ahs existed from the beginnig of the w/d installation) is that the power cord is connected to the unit such that both motors are powered by the same 110 volt leg. Not being there to assess this, I can't say how likely this is, but it's a long shot for sure.

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  • Samuel Charles Spriggs Jun 03, 2009

    Sorry for the late response. I didn't get your latest post in E-Mail, I just stumbled across it browsing thru the site.

    If this symptom existed when the equipment was new, the problem is almost assuredly with the circuit, and not the equipment.

    I would call and electrician.

    Charlie

  • Samuel Charles Spriggs Aug 18, 2009



    Hi,



    Did you get this problem resolved -- if so, what was the solution?



    Charlie

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