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DIM lights towards end of wire

I have a Malibu ML300RTW Power Pack. I have 260 Watts of lights using 12 Gauge wire. There are about 14 lights on the wire. I have about 88 yards of wire. The last 4-5 lights appear to be real dim. What is my issue?

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I have a similar issue with my low voltage outdoor lights. However, my power supply is large enough to accomodate all the lights. I tested the voltage at the supply and it was fine. Then I tested it at the end of my 250 foot run of wire and it was less than 12 volts. I was also using 12 gauge wire. The solution, unfortunately, is to use either 10 or 8 gauge wire which is much more expensive. Instead, I added another wire to the power supply and moved some of my lights. It helped a little but did not solve the actual issue.

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You need a bigger supply. 14 lights at 20w each running in parallel is 280w.
if you are running anything bigger than that, then you need a supply at less 360w or better.

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