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Hello, We have Maytag Model A8200 wash machine. The solenoid kicks in and lets water in, however NOTHING happens after that. I have manually very slowly moved the dial clockwise and where ever the motor should turn on to wash the cloths the motor does not start. Same when the pump should kick in to empty the water. NOTHING. Likewise for the spin cycle. NOTHING. Your thoughts will be much appreciated.

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  • RichTK May 21, 2009

    Thanks much!!



    I talked with the guys from Tribles. Like you one of the fellows said that most likely the timer is bad. The cost is $157 (timer and motor).



    The SN of the unit is 116955. Unfortunately I didn't write down when we bought the unit. Can you tell me how old the unit is? I would quess about 15 years old.



    Next question - Best to buy the timer, OR go out and buy another wash machine. We would buy a basic unit as we are not into "gadgets".



    Your thoughts will be much appreciated.



    Richard



  • RichTK May 21, 2009

    Thanks much. I am amazed at your very prompt and open replies. Much appreciated.



    Okay, on to the "magic" question - Which brand out there today in a basic model is RELIABLE and easy to fix if and when needed?



    Replacing pumps, solenoids , etc. is no big deal here. The important thing is that it is designed so I DON'T have to call a repair person. That I can take care of it myself.



    I look forward to your response.



    Richard

  • RichTK May 21, 2009

    Thanks much!!!!



    WOW, if all people would/could be as open as you have been and have the patience as you do the world would be a better place.



    I'll let you know what we end up doing.



    Have a GREAT Day!!!



    Richard

  • RichTK May 23, 2009

    Hello,



    I'm back again with another question -



    You stated in a past E-mail "Any top-load basic (non-digital) 90-series washer is a sinch to work on these days." "Just remember - the more lights and digital displays - the more difficult to troubleshoot..and the more espensive the parts."



    I've been to several retail stores. At one I was told that ALL washers today have a computer board in them and no more "metal contact points" even if there are dials on the front. At another store I was told that the washers with the dials to turn were not "digital" (no computer board).



    Okay my good friend, I need some clarification here. When I turn the dials on the washers I still hear that "click". So is it still a metal contact point, or just to make me feel it is so.



    I know I can put more faith in your reply than the sales people.



    Richard

  • RichTK May 23, 2009

    THANKS Blueextc!!!!



    You are amazing!!! Thanks for your incredibly FAST reply and EXCELLENT info!!!



    Now I can go out there and click away on those dials and knobs.



    As I was reading about the washer you have (not of your choice) I was thinking - how do I convince my wife that a Kenmore is BETTER than a Maytag. (We have had Maytags since '63.) Think I'll tell her it is why a number of years ago we switched from American cars to Toyota and Honda - RELIABILITY!!!!!! The "facts" from Consumer Reports (Feb '09) says it all.



    Have a GREAT weekend!!



    Richard

  • RichTK May 25, 2009

    Hello Blueextc,



    Hope you are having a GREAT Weekend.



    MAN, I've been going through the internet like crazy and looking for and reading people's experiences and thoughts regarding todays wash machines. Most unfortunately you are RIGHT ON that they don't make them as good as they used to. Good grief, how many bad experiences are shared.



    Okay, I know the old Maytag should be laid to rest, BUT --------- with the **** that is out there today I'm not so sure.



    To the point - I tried to figure out how to remove the ole timer from the "cover", but I can't figure out the "secret". No problem taking the cover off and getting to the timer, just can't figure out how to remove the timer from the cover. Do you know how it is done? Hope so. I at least need to keep that as an option IF I can remove the timer myself.



    I look forward to your reply.



    Richard

  • RichTK May 25, 2009

    BINGO!!!!! RIGHT ON Blueextc!!!



    I carefully took a small slotted screw driver and gently removed the "front cover" of the knob. That came off easily and so did the knob itself. And there staring me in the face are the two screws/bolts for the timer that you mentioned.



    Now I at least have another option.



    I owe you a six pack!! (at least)



    Richard



  • RichTK May 27, 2009

    Hello Blueextc,



    Time for an update -



    Purchased and had delivered today a Speed Queen Model AWN 432 washer. It has run through one cycle and is well on its way with the 2nd wash. A totally different sound than the old Maytag A8200. Not objectionable, just different.



    WHY the Speed Queen? The ONLY washer with very good reviews and NO bad reviews. PLUS it is designed primarily as the "oldies" were. It is not a direct drive. It does have a transmission. Yep, it does have a computer board and uses a fair amount of water (31.4 gal) One might say those are negatives. However, that's the technology of the 15+ year old Maytag which served us VERY well.



    There are SOOOoooo many BAD reviews of the units coming out of Whilrpool and the "brand" names they "manufacture" as well as GE that thank goodness I went to Google and typed in "best washing machine reviews" or I would not have found Speed Queen.



    Of course only time will tell if our Speed Queen lives up to the reviews I have read. One thing is for certain - they have the VERY BEST warrantee of ANY washer. Three years on parts and labor, 5 years on the motor, 5 years on the cabinet, and 10 years on the transmission. And all the rest - 1 year - PERIOD!!!! To me that speaks for itself!!!!



    Okay what about cost - $582 for the washer, $45 for delivery and taking old washer, plus state taxes.



    I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.



    Richard



  • RichTK May 27, 2009

    WRONG Blueextec,



    I just got off the phone with a fellow from Alliance Laundry Systems in Ripon, WS. THEY manufacture Speed Queen in Ripon.



    Yes there is a story about Maytag owning Amana at one time, but NOT Speed Queen.



    Just wanted to set the story straight.



    Have a GREAT Day!!!!!



    Richard

  • RichTK May 27, 2009

    Blueexectec is FANTASTIC.

    Now HOW do I give the proper rating?

    Richard

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Your Timer or Timer MOTOR has failed.
Most timers are spring loaded - yours is mechanical (motor) driven.
If you dont hear a low buzzing or clicking type sound during the cycle - the motor has failed.

CLICK HERE to see all the available blowout schematics of your washer.
CLICK HERE to see the exact one of the timer mechanism. It is #13 on the diagram.
CLICK HERE to see the Timer Motor. It is #16 on the same diagram.

and Finally....

CLICK HERE to see the Timer.

Parts Select is a trusted website for ordering appliance parts.

by removing the motor from the timer - you can check its proper operation. If it spins after selecting a cycle - the timer needs to be replaced.
If the motor does not spin - replace the motor.

If you need further clarification regarding this repair - please use the "Continue with this expert" option so we are connected in the future.

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    blueextc3221 May 21, 2009

    It has definately outlived its life expectancy.



    If you were a handy person - i'd say go ahead and replace the timer (or even try to find one cheaper on eBay)... however additional parts may start failing as well.... ie coupling, clutch, belt, inlet valve solenoids, etc.



    I would use the $175+ and invest in a new washer... with more readily available and cheaper parts.



    New ones use less water - and are more efficient (saving on electricity and water as well).

    Get a no-bells-and-whistles basic washer for not much more than the cost of the timer!! :D

    You will get a new warranty - and be problem free for another 15 years!!



    Good Luck - and thanks for using FixYa!!

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    blueextc3221 May 21, 2009

    Most of the basic Kenmore, GE, HotPoint, etc. are the same machine - just re-branded.

    For a great pricepoint, and lasting reliability - Kenmore is my choice and reccomendation.

    Sears supports their products for about 10 years... and parts are EASILY available through them or any online parts store.

    Any top-load basic (non-digital) 90 series washer is a sinch to work on these days. I would also suggest getting a direct drive model - rather than one with a clutch for ease of repairs later down the road.



    Thanks for the great comments - good Luck !!

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    blueextc3221 May 21, 2009

    http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605...



    Just remember - the more lights and digital displays - the more difficult to troubleshoot... and the more expensive the parts.



    :D

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    blueextc3221 May 21, 2009

    you too.

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    blueextc3221 May 23, 2009

    Most salespeople are misinformed.

    When you turn the dial on a basic washer - it is a mechanical timer.

    Sure - there is a tiny circuit board for the logic if there are any buttons or dummy lights :D

    but the main function is controlled in the mechanical timer.... not like the space-age techie 30 lights and buzzers the washers like in MY laundry do.

    What a nightmare!!

    (but my wife liked all the fancy lights and buttons)

    I dread the day it fails, and the main circuit board costs as much as the washer did ($1100)

    Electronics are essentially "you get what you pay for".

    The cheapest washer will have the cheapest - most basic parts.

    There's no way around it.

    And a timer knob that Clicks when you spin it - is the most basic out there :D





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    blueextc3221 May 23, 2009

    one thing i also thought of - is that when they say all washers have dials on the front - that is somewhat true - however if the dial CLICKS as you spin it to the cycle - it is a manual timer - if it is a SELECTOR knob - it simply tells the circuit board which cycle you have selected and the "computer takes over"

    My machine has a dial - but it is a selector type.

    :D

    hope thats more clear.

  • blueextc3221
    blueextc3221 May 23, 2009

    clicking buttons = manual too ;D



    assure her that most appliances are essentially the same. Marts are interchangeable. The only thing the badge serves is LOYALTY.



    remember back when (and still the case) cars were made with the same parts - but GM branded one a GMC Jimmy and Chevy Branded it BLAZER?



    And more recently the G5 pontiac and Chevy cobalt share the same platform.

    A little tweak here, and a little body mod there - but essentially the same car with interchangeable parts.



    The Cobalt and HHR are the same IDENTICAL vehicle - with different bodies.



    This might be an easy way to explain :D



    Good Luck with your informed purchase.

  • blueextc3221
    blueextc3221 May 25, 2009

    pretty sure you pull the front knob off - and its atatched with 2 screws behind the timer dial

    CLICK HERE for the diagram.

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    blueextc3221 May 25, 2009

    A FixYa rating is thanks enough.

    Thats what Im here for.



    Glad you got'er done :D

    Thanks for using FixYa!!

  • blueextc3221
    blueextc3221 May 27, 2009

    Sounds like you got exactly what you were looking for!!

    Congrats!!

    Amana is the manufacturer of Speed Queen i believe.

    And Amana was recently purchased by Maytag.....

    So in THEORY - you're back to where you started!! LOL



    This is like 7 degrees of Kevin Bacon.



    Don't get many Speed Queens in for repair - or even questions on FixYa (could be good or bad) :D



    Now you'll have piece of mind for at least a year.

    Glad everything worked out!!



    Thanks again for using FixYa. Please rate your session as Fixya... as If I don't answer to any comments you make within 4 hours - the question gets thrown to the wolves and someone else may get credited.



    This will close the question on the books - but you will still be able to leave/post comments.



    P.S. Speed Queen is manufactured in my home state of Wisconsin - so I'm SURE it will be good for you :D



    Thanks again for using FixYa!!

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