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Electrical/wiring for a pendant fixture

We are replacing an old fan with a pendant light fixture. The fan was wired with a 2way switch and a Hunter Vari-Speed switch. The ceiling box has three wires: red, black, and ground. The 2way switch has a red and black wire, but the Vari-Speed switch has a white and black wire. We attached the indicated fixture wire to the red wire from the ceiling box and the plain black fixture wire to the black wire from the ceiling box. NO LUCK. We tested continuity from the switch to the ceiling box wires and that was positive. We have tried everything we can think of. HELP!

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White - nuetral

black - zap the junk out of you positive

if you can test continuity then test for source power, check both black wires and the red. the white wire better be neutral



set your volt ohm meter to 200 VAC if you have a cheap dial one or if you have a nice auto range one, set it to AC volts and test. red to the three wires, black lead on white...

Posted on Dec 29, 2013

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  • Megan Kelley
    Megan Kelley Dec 29, 2013

    We have several switches connected to one another. We are showing continuity from the ceiling box red wire to the red wire on the 2-way switch and from the black wire in the ceiling box to the black wire from the vari-speed switch. When I tested for the source power on the two black and red wires, both black wires read really low voltage.

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    ok lets step back... you want to install a light fixture correct ? and you just want to be able to turn it on how ??? just a light switch of a dimmer switch ???

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    should of read " or a dimmer switch " sorry

  • Megan Kelley
    Megan Kelley Dec 29, 2013

    we were just wanting to install it with a regular switch. If we can use a dimmer switch in place of the vari-speed switch we can do that. Would that work?

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    hold on... you need to pull the switch from the wall... black and white wires should go to it... those wires will be the ones that should power your light...

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    trying to add a picture but this worthless site wont let me !!!

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    google " light switch wiring " look for the drawing basic light switch... that will help you

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    oh and please tell me your in the USA because outside of our pathetic electrical grid, everythings different LOL

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 29, 2013

    the yellow wire in this diagramhttp://www.buildmyowncabin.com/electrica... is green in our wiring. If you have it let me know because its a safety ground that if your house is old enough isn't needed or used kinda sorta

  • Megan Kelley
    Megan Kelley Dec 30, 2013

    So once I pull the wires from the vari-speed (I'm pretty sure this is where the wiring originates from the fuse box) then we will have to rewire the other switches to supply power to them? It looks like a big cluster **** in the switch box.

  • Behind_Blue_Eyes
    Behind_Blue_Eyes Dec 30, 2013

    You shouldn't have to deal with the vari speed unless you want it out of the wall. Then you can cap the wires pull the vari speed and move on. The only wires you need is just like the diagram. Black wire in and out of switch, white wire... As you noted, you only need one black wire from fuse panel which probably happened is they've jumper'd the wires from the switch so they could power the vari speed. Sometimes things are cobbled together... Does this make sense ???

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Hi Rexter,

I would pull the cover off of the Light switch and look at the color of the wire leaving the Variable speed device. I only assume the red wire is from that. I do not like to assume anything. So you must verify that a red wire leaves the Variable speed device. If it does, then i am assuming you dim the lights with this Variable device. The fan has its own built in Variable speed setup. In the case that the red wire belongs to the variable device, wire the Red to Blue(light), and Black to Black Whites to white. Green to Ground. bare wires to ground.

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SOURCE: wiring a ceiling fan with a remote sensor

since you have a remote, you don't need that extra wiring for the light/fan. just wire nut it off.
the switch at wall has 2 switches but only one will work now.

Posted on Mar 31, 2008

worldvet
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Hello,

The black goes to the L connection the others are a guess. You can do this two ways. Connect the colored wires in any sequence and then see what switch sequence give you high and lowest, the other one will be medium. Once you determine that, mark the wires with a piece of masking tape as high, medium and low. Otherwise you connect them, turn power on and use a multimeter to see which color gives you the highest voltage and which gives you lowest. Since you aren't comfortable using live wires and a meter, go with the first option and use the process of elimination to find the wires giving you the speeds you need to find the highest and lowest. Next, you need to determine how your switch sequence works. First pull has to give you highest speed. so you may end up wiring them in reverse if your first attempt is backwards. There is a reason the first pull needs to be highest, it powers up the motor so you can then chose a lower setting. A low setting first will over tax your motor and wear it out eventually as it has to work harder at first.

Let me know if you need further clarification and perhaps this is all you need to get fixed.

Regards,
Worldvet
ps I checked on the Internet of a wiring diagram and I bet you did tok all to no avail.

Posted on May 27, 2008

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SOURCE: Replace three-speed box fan switch

I have the same problem.

Posted on Sep 21, 2009

extreme7528
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SOURCE: Hunter fan wiring

sounds like one of your connections is loose. Im not sure if i completely understand your description of how you re-hoked up your fan. Please tell me how many wires your fan has and colors and how many wires you have on the sensor remote. (lots of times if you draw a wiring diagram on paper you can figure it out) Basically you should have power coming from ceiling to remote sensor. Then the remote sensor should throw the power to either the fan or the light, so there should be two seperate leads coming out of the remote sensor to control either the fan or the light independantly.

Posted on Oct 07, 2009

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