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I HAVE ASSEMBLED MY 4250 MODEL WEMSSY2915.0 AND HAVE JUST FINISHED INHSTALLING THE PULLEYS AND CABLES. AS i FINISHED THE LAST STEP OFTHE AB CABLE I FOUND THE CABLES APPEARED TO BE TOO SHORT. tHE WEIGHT CABLE DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY INTO THE STACK. ARE THE WEIGHTS SUPPOSED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FRAME OR DO THEY SIT ON THE WEIGHT TUBE BUMPERS ABOUT A FOOT HIGHTER THAN THE CENTER BASE? iVE CHECKED THE CABLES SEVERAL TIMES TO SEE IF THEY MATCH THE DIAGRAMS AND EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE RIGHT. HELP! richardratke@mysite.com (727)940 4722

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  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    As I stated I am assembling a new weider home gym (pro 4250) and after finishing the frame and cables and pulleys i find the weight cable too short by about a foot to reach the weight stack.. again, does the weight stack normally sit on thecenter base or are they supposed to be slightly off the base resting on theeight tube bumpers?

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    I haven't recieved any solutioon or answer to my questions. if you need more specifics please let me know what youy require

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    I am assembling a new weider pro 4250 model wemssy2915.0. I followed your instructions as shown \in your users manuaol. as I got to step 55 on page 20 I find that somewhere some cable must be too short since the weight tube is lifted a bout a foot out of the weight stack. are the weights supposed to rest on the base or are they normally resting on the weight bumpers as much as a foot off the base? something is wrong somewhere I am assuming all the cables are the correct length

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    Somehow I don't see any sort of solution to the specific problem I wrote about in your reply. I had no trouble with the assembly but if yiou read my problem you can see I need a specific answer.

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    I have posted my problem 3 times now and have yet to get any soluitionNot even a suggestion. I have stated the problem as clearly as possible. Does anyone there have a copy of the users manual for this product?

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    Hi! I have a users guide in english as I stated previously.I refer you to page 20 in either language. note step 55. when I complete tyhis stepand place the end of cable 107as shown it tightens up all cables to the extent thatthe weight cable 110 pulls right out of the weight stackby about 10 inches.

    there is no slack. I have checked the installation of all pulleys and cables now a dozen times and everything seems to be ibn order.. It almost seems that the cable is too short unless the weight stack is supposed to be higher (off the base) are the weights supposed to sit all the way down to the frame?

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    thanks, at least those are some ideas; however, I double checked the cable run and I find nothing wronng there. it all seems to be run OK. As for 21 feet 1 inch it would be pretty difficult to measure without taking everything apart again.

    as for tjhe bumpers they are really loose fitting certainly not tight enough to hold up 100 pounds. they slide up and down real easy.

    let me trty to refer you to page 8. I note there are two holes a short way uo the weight guides. (figure 8) do these have any purpose? are there some pins or something to hold up the bumpers?

    figure 9 shows the bumpers up the guides a bit but what holds them there? they won't even stay up with their own weight. they just sllide down to the bottom.



    Any ideas.? If the bumpers would keep tjhe weights 10 inches off the base it would solve the problem perfectly.



    Also, the "holes" seem to vbe more than 10 inches up the guides.

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    I appreciate the help really. If they enclosed the correct bumpers that would hold up the weight stack I would have no problems the ones they sent just flop[ traight down with nio weight at all on them. (very loose.)

    The "holes" I mentioned are not for that purpose. (page 24) They are meant to lock the weight stack down for whatever reason.

    PLEASE keep me informed. I need a solution. the entire thing is useless this way!

    You seem to be the only one I've had contact with that has any idea of what the problem is.

    I'm in full agreement that the weights should be 10 inches aver the base. The problem is--how ot get them there and keep them there.

    again, thanks for the help. this thing is driving me nuts. I'm usually pretty good with tools etc.

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    hey, you're trying. I was beginning to woder if anyone there even spoke english. I really appreciate the help. I just bought this thing and now I'm not sure I'll ever be able to use it.

  • richardratke May 18, 2009

    good thought but I figured that out right frojm the start. it is confusing at first.

    actually, I spent 22 years in the army and they taught me about right and left real good.



    thanks again--keep thinking.

  • richardratke May 19, 2009

    I bought the gym from walmart on lihe they do not stock it in stores

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    Susan Kemman Apr 01, 2014

    I had the same problem. After routing cables, it came about a foot too short and top weight would not rest on the stack of weights. SOLUTION: Check the Chest Press (with the silver handles) to see if it was put on correctly. Mine was reversed. Beneath the seat, you'll see a horizontal row of four bolts. They should be facing outwards toward the foot plate. Men was facing the wrong way. Once I reversed the chest press, the cable was no longer short and puling the top weight up. Of course to reverse the chest press, it involved releasing the cables in that section to take it off and turn it around, only a few minutes time. Good luck and it should work!

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SOLUTION: Check the Chest Press (with the silver handles) to see if it was put on correctly. Mine was reversed. Beneath the seat, you'll see a horizontal row of four bolts. They should be facing outwards toward the foot plate. Mine was facing the wrong way. Once I reversed the chest press, the cable was no longer short and pulling the top weight up. Of course to reverse the chest press, it involved releasing the cables in that section to take it off and turn it around, only a few minutes time. Good luck and it should work!

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Hey if you go to page 26,It shows the starting and ending point of the cable and that the cable should be 21 feet 1 inches long

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    Randy Hough May 18, 2009

    Also,No the weight doesn't set all the way down on the frame,It rest on the bumper about 10 inches above the frame.

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    Randy Hough May 18, 2009

    If I understand the directions correctly he bumpers should be 10-12 inches from the base,I don't see a pin or bolt that hold them there,But I will continue to study the manual.

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    Randy Hough May 18, 2009

    This post will be rolled over to another person on here soon,We only get 30 minutes to solve the problem before it goes into the pool again for someone else to help,I will keep studying and email you directly at the email address you provided if I figure anything out after it rolls back into the pool.I'm printing the manual now so I can lay it out in front of me instead of scrolling back and forth.



    Sorry I haven't been able to just give you a quick solution.

  • Randy Hough
    Randy Hough May 18, 2009

    Hey,When you were putting it all together and following the instructions for left base and right base were you using the right as your right while facing the machine? If so,that may be the problem.It state left and right throughout the instructions but at the front,on the bottom of the picture on page 4 It states that the left and right are from a seat position so it would be with your back to the machine which would make everything backwards,So in other word the left base would be mounted on the right(facing the machine)and on you left while sitting.And since the mounting points for the cables and pulleys are located in different parts on the 2 base pieces,This would throw everything off.I'll keep looking and you can keep me up to date.

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    Randy Hough May 19, 2009

    Hey,I have looked and looked,but other than the cable being the wrong size or routed wrong(which you've check so many times,That I doubt that's the case),I can't figure anything else out.

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Hi, here is a user guide it will show you exactly how construct it link (left and click save target as). however the only manual available is in spanish, you will be able to understand the diagrams perfectly if you want any specific help with the words just use this.

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The problem is not as complicated as so many experts have already given their solutions and advice.
I am a self-taught and my intutive Mechanical background

The answer is very simple and the answer lies therein. You have repeatedly asked:
ARE THE WEIGHTS SUPPOSED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FRAME OR DO THEY SIT ON THE WEIGHT TUBE BUMPERS ABOUT A FOOT HIGHTER THAN THE CENTER BASE?

The answer is yes the weights final resting position is on the tube brackets, part no. 45 in the schematic given in the manual. This should solve the problem because you had mentioned once that the cables appear to be foot shorter than what it's supposed to be according to your observation.

Well if the weight in the stack come to rest 1 & quarter feet above the ground then none of your cables will fall short!!??

I am 100% sure regarding the resting point of the weights in the stack and once you join eveerything it will become as good as new.
Another question seems to have been been answered by you that the hole are for pins, and you have already come to the right conclusion about t5hat and you are right.
After so many experts opinion I hope this simple answer will get due recognition and acknowledgment by you if this answers right...................................sodeep

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If you bought it from a store you could go back there and see if they have a model already setup ,then you can see where you went wrong.

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Agree that its a little of a project to build. Took about 3-4hrs with 2 people. Can be done with 1 person, but he should be above average strength. Not a quick build...need a little "handyman" skills...not much, but a little.

All parts came well packaged. The biggest part comes with 3 parts attached with a rope. You have to be careful how u handle these pieces together as to not damage the mechanism. The rope is supposed to be there and supposed to bind the three pieces. It makes it harder to transport the 3 pieces, but easier to put together as you don't have to thread the rope into the interior of the weight mechanism.

While the parts could be better labeled, I was not missing a single nut or screw. Most of the small parts are well labeled. I agree that it took a little while to find the reps sensor which was inside a small bubblewrap bag taped to the power pack (extra 100lbs).

Plugged it in and it works right out of box. Changing the weight changes the resistance. Haven't tested out the leg ext/preacher curl part yet. But for lat pulldowns and tricep extensions, the bar works great.

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Hi,
can u please tell me which kind of help do u need means regarding installation or operation etc..

Thanks!
Sandy

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    i m not able to get ur problem it is not clear enough please make it more clear

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