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Caravan fridge tripping when connected to electricity

A Sprite caravan fridge - wiring seems to have been tampered with.

Could I have a proper diagram?

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  • shaun greyvensteyn May 11, 2010

    it is hard to get a diagram but il try to explain but i want to know if it is a 12v or 220v side that are tampered with

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On what voltage doe it work then i can tell you exactly how to wire it

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