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Barbara Connor Posted on Dec 21, 2013
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I have had my Baratza Virtuoso grinder for a few years. It originally seemed to grind fine for our Gaggia Classic Espresso machine, but over the last several months has been grinding too large even at the lowest settings which we have used from the beginning. We replaced the Ring Burr with Holder (found that the plastic had broken when we cleaned it). and the silicone bean seal which looked worn, but it is still and actually doing a poorer job than it did before. What can we do? Thanks P.S. This machine has always made the espresso drip too quickly so that it has never been a great brew. At this point in time, we would not get a Virtuoso grinder again.

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It may be worn out. Can you fit a metal washers on the shafts that hold the burrs to make them move closer together to get fine grind?

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SOURCE: Motor revs but grinder does not engage.

Hi,
I am what you would call an expert when it comes to Baratza repairs.
The problem you are describing is not an unusual one. It sounds like the main drive gear has been stripped due to something foreign (likely a stone) sneaking into your grinder with the beans. It would have jammed the burrs, and because of the powerful torque from the motor, the drive gear has been stripped so it will no longer (or rarely) engage the burrs.

To solve this problem you will need to contact COAG Ltd (if you live in Canada) or Baratza if you are from the US. If you machine is still under warranty (less than a year old) this repair will be free of charge and you shouldn't be parted from your grinder for long.

I hope this helps anyone who stumbles upon this and finds themselves with the same problem.
Kind Regards
Emily
COAG Ltd.
877 477 3849

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