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Stiff wheel Elna SU C1 62 is frozen

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My model list tells me this is the Star Series SU model, white with a blue top. These were made between 1964 and 1978, so getting on for 50 years old. I am assuming that the fly wheel wont turn at all for you, when machines are left for long periods any lubrication internally dries up. You can try to rectify yourself if you are patient, need Tri-flow Oil (preferably with a long neck applicator so you can get into the little spaces), a special lubricant which also contains a solvent, and a hair dryer to add heat. You will need to take off the top cover (two screws) to gain access to the main shaft and needle swing bearing. Also the free arm top plate should be removable with a single screw. Then get into the machine and clean with a small brush any visible lint or gunky build up on shafts, lubricate, then apply heat to the metal parts and wiggle to free up. Expect to spend some time on it, before you'll get things to free up. The needle swing bearing, the arm which holds the needle often seizes up too so straight stitch will work but no zig zag. You might want to join the Yahoo group Elna Heirlooms, lots of Elna lovers there who share their knowledge.

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  • Posted on Jun 18, 2008

SOURCE: needle position

this wheel does seize over a period of time.Remove the top cover so that you can see the wheel. It can be unseized by spraying a mixture of 20% ammonia to 80% water under the wheel. Let it sit for 20-30 minutes, spray it again and then turn it with a pair of pliers. Do NOT break it!! use a soft cloth around it if you want to protect the wheel from scratches.
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  • Posted on Oct 28, 2008

SOURCE: Elna walking foot

If your SU is an Air Electronic model i.e. 80's model, Elna didn't make a walking foot to fit. However, if you've got a walking foot that is the same height from sole plate to the screw fitting as a standard Elna foot then you could give it a try. The walking foot connects to the presser bar with a screw but the needle bar also needs to hook into a secondary lever on the side of the walking foot to make the foot actually move. Probably sounds very confusing . Check the movement of the foot manually by hand turning the fly wheel to see how it works before you actually use with the motor to minimise any problems if the foot doesn't fit.

Also you'll probably only be able to do straight stitch with this foot due to the clearance around the needle plate.


Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 09, 2009

SOURCE: have a 1970's elna su supermatic but cams don't work

There are two types of discs - single and double.
For the thinner single discs do as follows:
1.Turn stitch width knob to "0"
2. Turn stitch length knob to "0"
3. Insert the single disc
4. Turn the top selector to "A"
5. Make sure the needle selector is in the centered position.
6. You may now choose any stitch length or width you wish. I usually try "3" for the width and 1/2 for the length to start.

For the thicker double discs do as follows:

1.Turn stitch width knob to "0"
2. Turn stitch length knob to "0"
3. Insert the double disc
4. Turn the top selector to "A"
5. Make sure the needle selector is in the centered position.
6. You may now choose any stitch width.
7. The stitch length must be put on "A" - this is the difference between the single and double discs!
I hope this helps!

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SOURCE: On my Elna SU ,The front white top selector is jammed

Have you turned the stitch width and stitch length selectors back to zero each before trying to change the stitch selector wheel? Really important to always do this.

Have you resolved this issue now?

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I just bought a second hand elna SU and the coupling wheel will not turn. ( so I cant disengage the flywheel to load a bobbin. Any suggestions?

Grasp the outside of the Flywheel really firmly and then using a piece of that rubber mat grip, grasp the inner wheel and turn it towards you. Sometimes if the machine hasn't been used for some time, the flywheel will get quite tight and you may need to apply some force. Is your machine the Blue top Star Series SU? Great strong workhorse machine. If you are a bit mechanical and what to delve into the machine, I'd suggest you find the Yahoo Group called Elna Heirlooms where owners of these Swiss made beauties share their passion and knowledge of these machines.
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If your machine is mechanical, not computerized, it probably needs a thorough oiling with fresh good quality sewing machine oil. The old oil has solidified over time and locked the moving parts in place.

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My foot pedal doesn't work. Sometimes will start if I manually turn wheel.

Bet the friction drive is worn, if this is a 62 air electronic mine did the same. Its like a slipping clutch. Can you check the model number? It will be on the machines id plate on right side near power plug socket. 62 is the SU. You may find some help from fellow Elna owners at the group called,Elna Heirlooms in groups at yahoo dot com, I have seen othets discuss a way to roughen up the outside of the drive wheel with sandpaper.
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The flywheel will not turn on my elna su air electric machine

do you mean that you can't unlock the inner wheel on the flywheel to disengage the clutch? Grasp the outer flywheel and using a plastic mat for removing jar lids, get a good grip on the inner clutch wheel, then turn it towards you.
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Elna SU needle position lever is very stiff

this is probably due to lack of use and just stiffening up of this lever, best thing is to take off the top cover and get some triflow oil into the lever area, then try to work it back and forwards. First though, always set the stitch length and stitch width dials to zero before you try to move the needle dial, this applies to changing the stitch selector too, always turn width and length to zero first to avoid wear on these parts internally.

If you are happy to delve a bit deeper into your machine internally you might want to join the Yahoo group called Elna Heirlooms where other Swiss elna owners share their love and knowledge of these machines, there will be message thread on this issue there for sure.
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I have a Elna SU - new in the mid-70's and recently took it to an auth. repair place. The needle position wheel is very stiff - almost impossible to move. It is used mainly in conjunction w/the...

I was going to direct you to the www.arizonaexpressionz.com website which had lots of Elna instruction and service manuals including the SU but today its links seem to be out of action. It may come back to life so worth checking another time.

In the meantime, did your repair shop actually service the machine or just pull the top cover off, put in oil and tell you that's it. There are still Elna trained technicians out there who are familiar with the older Swiss made machines and its probably worth trying to find one if you think the service centre you've visited hasn't actually addressed the issue.

The other option is if you are in the USA, contacting White Sewing Centre and maybe sending it to them to be serviced. LInk is www.whitesewingcenter.com.

Or if you are technically minded yourself, you could join the "Elna Heirloom" group on Yahoo and then ask the other members there for help, there are lots of Elna lovers with models much older than the SU there who lovingly keep their machines running and share their knowledge. Just be clear as to whether yours is a Star Series SU (white with blue top) or Air Electronic SU (if you look on the id plate of the machine there will be a 2 digit code either 62 or 68.

I hope this helps you a little, I'd certainly persist with it if I was you. I just purchased my second SU 2nd hand after buying a new model of another brand 5 years ago and being quite disappointed with its performance, particularly with heavy jobs.
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On my Elna SU ,The front white top selector is jammed

Have you turned the stitch width and stitch length selectors back to zero each before trying to change the stitch selector wheel? Really important to always do this.

Have you resolved this issue now?
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I have and Elna su sewing machine and i can't get it to zig zag. Please refresh my memory on the settings i should have it on.

Depends on which SU you have, but you need to move the stitch selector to Zig Zag, then set the stitch length to 2.5 and the stitch width to at least 2.

On the earlier models the stitch selector is a wheel inside the flap on the top of the machine, on the air electronics, it is a coloured dial.

If this doesn't help, check if you've inadvertently moved the needle position to the side setting.
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Needle position

this wheel does seize over a period of time.Remove the top cover so that you can see the wheel. It can be unseized by spraying a mixture of 20% ammonia to 80% water under the wheel. Let it sit for 20-30 minutes, spray it again and then turn it with a pair of pliers. Do NOT break it!! use a soft cloth around it if you want to protect the wheel from scratches.
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