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I need help choosing a video card - part 2

Whats the difference between PCI video cards and PCIe video cards?
I found 2 PCI video cards the same card but with different memory
I already maxed out my motherboard's system memory (2gb) so do I get the higher 256mb, or the lower 128gb video card both are Diamond Stealth Radeon 9250. Note I need to know why PCIe is better than PCI.

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  • rebel371 May 13, 2009

    So how much video memory is too little? And whats the difference between PCI Express x16 and PCI - sorry I meant to type PCI Express.

  • rebel371 May 13, 2009

    Thanks.

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PCI and PCIe are slot/bus types. Near the bottom of most motherboards, you'll find anywhere between 1 to 6 expansion slots. These are where you add the video cards, modems, network cards, USB cards, sound cards, etc... Each type of slot has a name. Video card slots are usually at the very top, these used to be AGP slots, with PCI slots below them. PCI slots are normally white. AGP slots are normally green or brown. PCI slots were standard for many years because of their versatility and speed. In recent years, the PCI standard was upgraded, and two new standards came out of it - PCIe and PCI-Express (not the same thing). PCIe slots are faster, and much smaller. They're normally black in color. You can think of PCIe as "PCI 2.0" or "PCI - the sequel". As for a video card, the type of card you get is dependant on your motherboard. You can't use a PCIe card if you don't have PCIe slots. Likewise with the PCI card. Once you've determined the type of slot/card you can use in your machine, you then should pick the card with the most RAM you can afford. You can never have too much video RAM, but you can often have too little. The Video RAM has no effect on the system RAM (motherboard RAM) until you get to 4GB of system RAM. If you're running Windows XP 32bit, you're limited to 4GB of RAM, but the OS will reduce that depending on your video RAM. It's a long story. Anyway, hope thie helps.

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    PCI-X lost the battle to PCIe. PCIe comes in different versions, which pretty much only differ by speed of the bus and how much data it can move through the bus in a given amount of time. If you're playing video games with 3D rendering (most modern games) you should have no less than 128MB of video RAM. The more intense the game, the more RAM you'll need. If you have a 128MB card and a 1GB card and all other variables stay still, the 1GB card will give you smoother pictures and faster frame rates. The 128MB card will still work, but just not as well. You can read up on the technical details and history of the PCIe standard here:



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express



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PCI is the older, slower format, PCIe is newer and faster, but your system MUST support PCIe or it won't work.
So easy option is to find if your system supports PCIe and then get whichever is suitable.

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Unlike PCI slots which are the same size for all devices, PCIe slots can differ depending on which form factor it accepts. The longest would be the 16 lane slot and understandably, the shortest is for the x1 devices.

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reboot ....... Congratulations your need Vid Card is install Now go play that game your dying to beat ;)

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