I had a tech come out to t'shoot a problem with noisy spin. He found the spinner bearings bad and recommended a clutch and spinner. How difficult is that to install myself? Is there a book on this model showing breakout of the mechanical parts?
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Re: Neptune Washer Clutch/spinner failure
Take a look thru this post and see if it the SM and Sears Parts direct link will help you.I have some pic’s of the clutch and a step by step to process to remove and replace the clutch in the FAV6800AW machine.I’m an owner like you not a repair person.I’m not sure what the repair service is calling spinner bearings.I believe they are referring to the roller clutch bearing assembly.If you are not leaking water on the clutch (Tub seal issue) I would drop the clutch out inspect and go from there. Are you throwing any error codes to the console such as “dc” or “UC” in the spin cycle of the wash cycle The repair service seems to be going in the right direction did you get a $350+ quote to repair?Does the machine spin dry the clothes to hang dry/dryer ready OK?I feel you have nothing to lose if you want to try a DIY fix and I will help as much as I can.Rich
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Read thru the post.I feel you have a Clutch malfunction even though you may not be see DC ot UC unbalance errors to the Console.
I'm seeing that around the 5 to 6 yr mark it's time for a Tub Seal replacement and possible Outer Tub and Spinner Support bearings should be replaced on the FAV6800A and FAV9800A machines. It's not too bad for most DIY owners.
Sounds like your bearings and seal need replaced... See Neptune Bearing for information on the Maytag Neptune bearing and 12002022 seal kit. You can also rent a special tool kit that includes the bearings, 12002022 seal kit, bearing spacer, step by step DVD, etc.
Is the wash tub rotating CW in the wash cycle (tumblers should rotate only)? You can release the washer top to observe. If so I feel there may be binding in what I call the Spinner support bearings you can see those at the end of my Clutch Fix post. Are you taking dc/uc unballance error codes while in wash cycle or just during spin cycle? I believe somewhere around series 12 and above the machine design went to the integrated lower tub bearing/One-Way roller clutch bearing. Any sign of wash water contaminating the Clutch Pulley One-Way bearing (rust)?.........Rich
When you did your Clutch Maintenance how much rust was present on the One-Way Roller Clutches, the Spinner Shaft Coupler did you series use upper One-Way Roller Clutches bearing ring? How long ago was the Clutch maintenance performed Any error codes with the ""stopps spinning at 7 minutes""? What is the Series number of your FAV6800A? Did you ues this Clutch Fix post to clean up and check that the One-Way Roller clutches are locking up solid in the CCW/Spin direction for both the Clutch Pulley mounted One-Way Roller Clutches if you series machine uses the Upper Bearing Ring? If so then I would take that same wash load and run Quick Spin Test page 14 of the Service Manual. You may have to center the wash basket load (balance) before you start the test. Will the machine step thru the all the RPM rages from 90 RPM to 85. which = 850RPM. If not try the same test with out the load. Let's rule Outer Tub Bearing drag........Rich
Cindy, I feel you have a Tub Seal Leak and from what you describe the Outer Tub bearings need to be replaced.
It’s a job but most DIY’ers can do this despite what you may see posted about calling in a expert and shell out $450+. What are the 1st two digits of your serial number?They will be 10,11,12 thru 17. How long can you be with the washer down? I estimate a Tub Seal kit with Tranny O-ring and bearings to be about and the tool to be about $70…..but you get to extend the service life of your investment. I will post a link with some info.I would not buy anything until your husband removes the Inner Wash basket form the Spinner Support.I had a difficult time removing the Spinner bolts from the Spinner assembly.You will need a impact tool to remove them air or electric. I’m an owner not a repair person with basic mechanical skill sets nothing fancy.But you have done a Clutch maintenance or replacement and I feel you can accomplish.
Take a look at the post and see what you think.One of the links discuss a Series 15 with integrated One-Way Roller clutches in the upper Outer Tub bearing assembly.You will read how this owner got around this fantastic Maytag improvement…..they should have stayed with the Upper One-Way Roller clutch bearing ring for all series.
Neptune TL Spinning Issue Will Not Proceedread thru initial troubleshooting to end of post.
You will need this tool to remove the Spinner Nut.See Page 48/49 of the Service Manual for removing the Spinner Nut.It can be done with a impact tool and a 1.75” socket.
My cost for Spinner nut locking ring and spanner I did not purchase the kit. All you need are the two items listed below ;
John, What are the first two numbers of your serial number i.e.10 through 17. I’m an owner like you not a repair person….. but I have a very good feel for machine issues and the repair of the machine.See my ratings under this nick name FAV6800AWDIY and my old original nick name dh1200s. The biggest problem with FIXYA is they don’t ask the user for Model or S/N of the machine.I can’t believe how many professional repair folks jump in with comments and they have no clue as to what machine is being discussed. You may end up going with a replacement if it’s the Outer Tub Bearings.I would remove the tub and try to replace before I would junk a $1000 but that’s me you would need to decide.This a weak repair area for me I have not replaced the outer tub bearings on any of the three FAV66800A’s I own but I feel confident I could do it.I buy these cheap and repair for resale. Have you had the Clutch Pulley removed/replaced in the past for dC or uC error code failure in Spin Cycle? I would drop the Clutch Pulley out and clean up/re-lube the One-Way Roller Clutches and check for signs of a tub seal leak. Then with the Clutch Pulley out spin up the Wash Basket CCW as fast as you can by hand and listen for bearing noise of the Outer Tub Bearings.Let’s make sure the One-Way Roller clutch bearing is not the bearing noise source.See this post for removing the clutch and doing maintenance and replacement.Clutch Fix Post I have to post rest of this comment as a comment. This forum is not geared up for DIY responses.
Did you see this post?My series 16 machine did not use the upper bearing ring.What is 1st two digits of your serial number. I believe that bearing ring is a plain bearing ring not a One-Way Roller clutch bearing as is in the Clutch Pulley.I refer to it as One-Way roller clutch but I believe I’m wrong can you confirm? Any way the ears on that upper ring should go up into the tub slots in the bottom of the wash tub.I would be concerned about the reliability of you Clutch you may want to replace it.The post above has the clutch I recommend and the supplier with the best price.I also describe reassembly of the clutch in the machine.Good luck back and post back if you have questions…… Rich Info from the above post; 6.Reinstalling the Clutch Pulley assembly is the most difficult part of the process.With a tight work area try a test fitment of seating (if used) the Upper Roller Clutch bearing with the notches into the bottom of the wash tub.Then insert the Spinner Shaft Coupler into that bearing rotating CW to reseat the coupler notches to the spinner shaft.Then the clutch pulley to the squared end agitator shaft.Rock back and forth the clutch pulley assembly with upward lifting pressure to reseat the clutch assembly. When the clutch assembly is properly seated you will feel a 1/16-1/8" gap between the Pulley face and shaft end as mentioned and shown on page 47 of the SM.On reinstallation, tighten Clutch Pulley bolt CCW to 96” pounds 8’ foot pounds (Snug no torque wrench required).
Some FAV6800AW series ues an upper and clutch mounted one-way roller clutch bearing. Your machine may be like mine (series 16) and use only the clutch mounted one-way roller clutch bearing. I have pic's in a link in this post for a clutch that has a upper bearing as well as the standard clutch mounted bearing. Can you rotate the wash basket CW by hand?It should not.The wash basket should only rotate CCW by hand and with very little resistance. Take a look at this post and see if the trouble shooting steps will help.Your problem seems to be the same as this forum member issue.I believe you have some binding with the one-way roller clutch bearing in the clutch pulley or binding in the agitator shaft causing this issue.Could you rotate the spinner shaft coupler CW in the clutch pulley?See this post for my crude exploded clutch parts view for the spinner shaft coupler. Rich
Hello janice_dave Pull the Maytag Neptune TL FAV6800A/FAV9800A the Service Manual from this site; FAV6800A/9800A Service Manual What errors are you taking?I will assume dc/UC in spin cycle. “Spin cycle failing in the last 11 minutes of cycle.This Machine suffers from a chronic failure of the clutch not engaging the spinner shaft causing the tumblers to rotate in spin cycle which will cause dc/UC errors.I call this a soft failure because most times the clutch spring is intact and the clutch roller bearings dry with a hint of rust that can be cleaned up with WD-40.A hard failure would be broken clutch spring, roller bearings rusted beyond reasonable clean up. Access the to the Clutch Raise the top of the machine.Insert a flat blade putty knife approximately 2.5” from the left and right sides of the washer top, depress the spring tabs securing machine top to the washer base.Raise the top of the machine to observe the wash basket and tumbler action described in step 2. (See page 33 of the SM for putty knife insertion point). Remove the front panel see page 41. Clutch Removal. Disconnect 120VAC power cord. Tools required; 3/8 inch socket and socket wrench to remove clutch pulley bolt. Page 47 of the SM 5/16 nut driver or 5/16 ¼ socket on a extension to remove front panel. Page 41 of the SM. An optional small bottle jack to help jack up the washer tub just enough for clearance to get the 3/8” socket wrench on the Clutch Pulley Bolt or a helper.It is a very tight wok area but you can do it without removing the tub. (See page 43 using block of wood to raise tub) Here is the process I posted back on Dec 15, 08 I just did a repair on my FAV6800AAW by lubricating the needle bearings in the clutch pulley hub, the tub displacement sensor checked OK per the service manual check. I was getting dc/uc errors in the spin cycle, washer was purchased in 7/05. I have basic mechanical skills and used a socket wrench to remove clutch pulley hub, just follow the service manual removal steps to remove clutch pulley hub. Pull the plastic cover off the clutch pulley hub and inspect the spring, clean/lube needle bearings and the clutch hub coupler that drives spinner shaft. I used WD40 I may need to re-lube down the road with a good light grease. It took a few tries for me to get the clutch pulley hub to stay on after re-install and power up, getting the clutch pulley seated properly is the trick. I did not remove the washer tub for this fix, I believe I saw a posting where someone did. I just leaned the washer back to get a better reach angle, it is a tight work area. I did not want to junk 3.5 yr old $1k machine without trying a fix. If you want to work on this model get the service manual, I found it online and I believe you can order it in PDF format from Maytag. Good luck! I just went thru my 10th load of a mix of light, medium and heavy loads and all work fine no unbalance errors (DC/UC). Doesn’t fix the tangle problem :) Prior to this fix I could only run the washer with no clothes in it to complete a cycle with no dc/uc error codes. I’m now at 40+ loads of all sizes. My wife said we are way beyond that count. Some folks that have used this process and met with success. Positive Fix 3/4 & 1/19 Positive Fix 1/19 Positive Fix 3/4 different Forum If you have a hard failure of the clutch try ebay.There are other parts suppliers Bay Clutch FAV6800A There are other parts suppliers let me know if you need help.Good luck Rich
The clutch needle bearings may need to be lubed, this was my fix;
I just did a repair on my FAV6800AAW by lubricating the needle bearings in the clutch pulley hub, the tub displacement sensor checked OK per the service manual check. I was getting dc/uc errors in the spin cycle, washer was purchased in 7/05. I have basic mechanical skills and used a socket wrench to remove clutch pulley, just follow the service manual removal steps to remove the clutch pulley. Pull the plastic cover off the clutch pulley and inspect the spring, clean/lube needle bearings and the clutch hub coupler that drives spinner shaft. I used WD40 I may need to re-lube down the road with a good light grease. It took a few tries for me to get the clutch pulley to stay on after re-install and power up, getting the clutch pulley seated properly is the trick. I did not remove the washer tub for this fix, I believe I saw a posting where someone did. I just leaned the washer back to get a better reach angle, it is a tight work area. I did not want to junk 4 yr old $1k machine with out trying a fix. If you want to work on this model get the service manual, I found a link on this site, good luck!