Garmin cf QUE and Ozi CE

Carsten,

what is OZI?

If I develop an app for PPC I can use the cfQue provided I have gpsgate
and OZI? I'm just trying to understand what a program might need to do
and use.

Peter.

Peter Hamilton-Scott <peter.hamilton-sc @virgin.net> wrote in

Common shorthand for the OziExplorer mapping program. Other
shorthand is Ozi3D for OziExplorer 3D, and OziCE for OziExplorer CE.
http://www.oziexplorer.com/

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Peter Hamilton-Scott schrieb:

Most Tools are NMEA based and will not work with the cfQUE. Only those
supporting Garmin PVT.

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Hi Carsten,

Thank you very much for the follow-up. I agree that a native USB driver is
best and also that it would be helpful to have a standard so that it would
be possible to use a USB connected GPS receiver with more than one software
package. There are software USB port duplicators, but none that I know of
that work properly.
We continue to hope that Garmin will distribute a version of the iQue 3600
software that will work on both the Palm and Microsoft PDA operating system
platforms and will function with a serially, Bluetoth or USB connected
receiver.
Robbie

Hi,

I have a Jornada 568 and CFque 1620 and I confirm that the que 1620 is
working with Oziexplorer CE. Just choose Garmin protocol PVT in
Oziexplorer CE.

Joel

Robert Robinson schrieb:

I understand Garmins policy with the USB GPS18 - with the GPS60, SP2610,
etc. they introduced a native (non-VCOM) USB driver. It is only logical
for them to use this protocol on all USB enabled units. NMEA would need
a different/separate driver installation.
Hence they offer the OEM version with standard serial/NMEA interface
(which can be converted to USB without a problem) as an alternative.
Using USB VCOM as a general approach is not a good idea, since it limits
the applications and has stability problems. In fact I'm glad Garmin did
it right with a native implementation. I guess it would have been the
NMEAs job to define a native NMEA-USB standard. Instead, they seem to be
okay with the compatible VCOM scheme.

I know. It seems I wasn't too successful with my GeoVcard proposal.

There are still PDA-GPS programmers who simply do not get the idea ...

- Carsten

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Thanks, works great. What a terrific setup. Now I have one unit that
will cover street routing and load USGS 1:24k topos!

On 3 Jun 2004 07:32:34 -0700, joelgil @hotmail.com (jgill) wrote:

I just popped in from the iQue forum. There's been a bit of frantic
activity over there (mostly started by me) as to whether there is an SDK
for the cfQue. It seems not, but if I understand what you guys are on
about it is possible to write code that will interact with the cfQue?

Have I understood that correctly?

If I have, can someone explain some of the details and procedures involved?

Thanks.

Robert Robinson schrieb:

Yes. Currently the scheme of opening serial ports in almost any OS means
locking the port for a single application. A dedicated USB driver can
overcome this limitation - e.g. Delormes Earthmate USB HID allows
multiple applications to connect to a single receiver. As far as I know,
Garmins scheme doesn't allow that, because they still create a Garmin
protocol point-to-point connection to the receiver, and the receiver
certainly can not talk to two or more applications at the same time. But
as far as I know, the iQue GPS library can be used by multiple
applications at the same time.

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I haven't tried the cf Que receiver with software other than Garmin, but,
from your description, it sounds like the system needs a Garmin driver to be
active. Once active, there is the catch-22 condition that only one software
package can use the same virtual serial port at the same time. The answer to
this is a virtual serial port duplicator. Fanson markets an inexpensive
software package called GPSGate that does this. Unfortunately, the PDA
version is still due for release "May 2004". For details see:
http://franson.biz/gpsgate/index.asp
Robbie

Robert Robinson schrieb:

That would assume that the cf Que software itself is using NMEA - I
don't think so.

The iQue has a similiar approach and uses a Garmin Library for PVT
calls. I think it is multiclient. For the iQue, this library is
documented and APIs are available.

This sounds strange, but it basically seems to be a means of protecting
Garmins software being used with other receivers, and vice versa.

- Carsten

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Hi Carsten,

You are undoubtedly correct about the NMEA compatibility. Garmin likes to
use proprietary codes in their serial data stream. Interestingly, they are
now marketing the GPS 18 "mouse style" receiver with a serial cable and user
selectable NMEA or Garmin data coding. The USB cable for the same device is
Garmin code only. This will certainly make it difficult to use the GPS 18
with non-Garmin software when USB connected.

On a different subject, we are still searching for GPS navigation software
with the capability of routing by Contacts stored Lat/Long coordinates. The
iQue software can do this, but it is Palm platform only. CoPilot has the
feature, but the software has multiple major problems and we couldn't use
it. I just found out today that the new Garmin GPS 18 package with nRoute
lacks Contacts Lat/Long capability as does cf Que 1620.
Robbie