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Hotpoint fridge model CSx20KATA AD defrost timer

I have a hotpoint fridge model CSx20KATA AD and it won't defrost. I can't seem to locate the defrost timer and was wondering if another part could be the root of the problem as well.

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  • red_scorp411 May 11, 2009

    Actually it does have one, I found the defrost timer behind the control panel. I see your point that the problem may be from the defrost heater or termination switch. How do I know which one is the problem, the timer or those two parts?

    Is the defrost heater the big colied thing with the spikes under the frost that you're saying must have continuity? and is the termination switch the thermostat round metal thing stuck to it that has wires coming into it as well?

  • red_scorp411 May 11, 2009

    Okayy I have figured out that there are three parts that could be the cause of this problem and I have found all 3: the defrost timer, the bimetal thermostat, and the defrost heater.

    Now I just need help figuring out which one is the root of the problem and needs to be changed?

    Is there anyway i can test each of these parts right now the way they're installed to see if they are functioning?

    like can i turn on the fridge and see if the defrost heater gets hot at some point in its cycle.

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Hi, This model does not have a defrost timer. It actually has a motherboard. If you have a defrost problem, the nore common part to check first is the defrost heater or termination switch ( bi-metal). These two parts are located inside the freezer compartment behind the rear panel where the frost is building up.
These two parts must have continuity. If one or noth of them have no continuity, they need replaced. Please use a hair dryer (NOT a sharp object the remove the frost from the evaporator coils.
If you need any more help or need to order the part, I can help you and we can order the parts off my web site WWW.Whirlpoolpartssurplus.com
Let me know if I can help.

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Vic

Posted on May 11, 2009

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    Victor May 12, 2009

    Yes you can turn the defrost timer to the defrost cycle by turning the little button clockwise until you here a loud click. Plug the refrigerator back in and see if the heater glows. Make sur the freezer is still cold so that the bimetal is closed. If the heaters do not come on, you can check voltage where the wires go into the heater and you should get 120V. If you do not have voltage to the heater, you need to check the bimetal switch. best way to check that is to see if you have continuity. 75% of the time, the heaters is the problem.

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