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Need to open Averatec 3500 notebook case to replace battery

Date/time needs reset every time I boot up. I've replaced/have a good main battery. I need to replace an obviously dead time-keeper battery but cannot open the case. All screws are out, including the one under the warranty tape. I've taken out HD and everything that's screwed into back of case to find remaining screws or something. No more screws I can see.

The front half of the case pries up a half inch but the back half is still caught by hidden catch or screws or something.

What's the trick to get in?

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  • js_radford May 27, 2009

    Sorry it took so long to get back to you. The notebook is at work and I had no access until yesterday.

    I looked at the keyboard and front generally. There are no screws visible to take out. All the 10 or so visible are all on the underside. I tried prying up an edge of the keypad but did not want to push it. I already have had a small scare when I tried to pry open the back after removing all screws. Once I put it back together, the display was broken up a little (a lot actually - with many lines flickering on and off and picture half broken up). Luckily, after re-boot, it was OK. Then it happened like that a few other times and was OK. The last half dozen times, no problem.

    I DON'T want to pry anything up that is not supposed to be pried up.

    So what's the trick? I still have no clue.

    This is not much like laptops I've seen. Also, it is not the 3200 series but the Averatec 3500 series. So if you don't know what IS done for that exact model, I'm not sure I can trust you to know this machine.

    Hints?


  • js_radford May 30, 2009

    Need advice from someone familiar with Averatec 3500 series. I am not going to remove the screen or pry up the keyboard unless that is a KNOW way to gain access to the BIOS battery.

  • js_radford May 30, 2009

    Please read. I cannot open the case! That's the whole point. I need to know how to do so.

    I've unscrewed ALL visible screws but the case does not open more than half an inch on one side and not at all at the side where monitor is attached.

  • js_radford May 31, 2009

    Need more info. I looked carefully and tried prying at a few spots but with no success. I am very concerned I WILL ruin the computer if I mess with it much more. Already, just unscrewing the back and trying to pry it open from that side has, for the first time, made the screen display unpredictably unreliable. Some connection is now flaky. Also, when I press gently on the upper left side of the panel just above the keyboard, the computer crashes - another suspect connection.

    So I am VERY hesitant to just force the keyboard up.

    Have you done this on a 3500?

    Do you just pry up at several points and not fear bending the keyboard tray? It seems my very timid attempts so far are doing just that - bending the keyboard tray slightly.


  • js_radford May 31, 2009

    NOT. I found another posting about how to remove keyboard. It involves 4 more screws, none of which you mention.

    Once keyboard is off, there is no battery visible! Now what? There are more an more screws under keyboard but I wonder if I have to remover every single screw I see?


  • js_radford May 31, 2009

    You are in the lead for solution. I used your help to get keyboard off, which is more than anyone else explained.

    BUT ... there is NO battery visible once the keyboard is removed.

    What next?


  • js_radford Jun 01, 2009

    My only use of the computer is for entering date and time-sensitive info. It is a real bummer to have to re-set the time every single time I use the thing. Sometimes I forget, too.

    So where is the CMOS battery? It is NOT under the keyboard.


  • js_radford Jun 01, 2009

    I was going to let you have this "solve" in spite of my not finding the battery because you seemed to know the Averatec 3500.

    Then I went to put the keyboard back in and realized you DON'T know the machine. This model has a keyboard wiring strip catch that is NEVER meant to be removed without breaking the catch, which is a flimsy plastic thing. I had to re-install the ribbon even though the catch had one flange break. If both had broken, it would not hold down the ribbon and I'd REALLY be screwed. As it is, I got everything back together (about 15 screws!) and started it and everything is OK ... for now. If the keyboard ribbon works its way out somehow, I'll have to glue it back in or something.

    Anyway, your statement that "the keyboard can now be removed" leads one into trouble, potentially serious. I was lucky.

    Now you know not to even suggest removing the keyboard.


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Hi Friend,
U have removed all the screws at the bottom,right.then remove the lower case and there will be the circuit board at the four corners u will be having four small screws and one at the center,once u have removed u can replace the dead time-keeper

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Honestly if you can manually put in the time and date of the things you do on this computer i would not sweat it, I am not sure what you are using this computer for but i know that tearing into a laptop can be tricky and they usually don't go back the same as they did when you pulled it apart. im not sure what is important about the time and date? a watch can do the same and if you need it added into a text document you can do it manually.. no warranty i wouldnt go further just deal with a wrong date versus messing up the whole thing for a battery.

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 Is there any specific areas you wish to access or did you want to just take it completely apart? If you are going for the keyboard ribbon or the touchpad ribbon, just undo the two screws out that are located behind the pivot point of the screen, then open the laptop and remove the small plate. This reveals access to two more screws (2 silver, 2 black). Remove the silver ones not the black ones. The black screws remove the lower shell assembly. Once the silver screws are removed the accessory bezel can be removed. ( the one with the power button and lights)

There are yet two more screws that lock down the keyboard. Remove them and pivot the keyboard toward the touchpad. You can now safely remove the keyboard.
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    its a small round shaped battery...... probably 1cm in diameter...... the battery serial number starts with M series..... sometimes the battery is also encased inside the chip... in that case u ll have to replace the entire chip casing.......












    hope u find it...... good luck..... 

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Hi.

You have not looked closely enough on top of the keyboard. The keyboard is like on a tray that it can be removed separately, the trick there is... at the top part there, use a flat screw driver to set free the keyboard .... see picture for guidance:


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Once detached you'll see your CMOS battery ready for replacement.

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Hi,
Open up the inside of the notebook, and you should see a watch style battery. Just remove it while the notebook is turned off and unplugged, and that will reset the BIOS for you.
Here is a link to the user manual. Check on page 48 to read what they have to say about Changing battery and BIOS setup. there you can reset the CMOS if that will help.
http://www.trigem.com/us/support/manuals.asp
Follow this step to remove the battery. this will automatically reset the BIOS:
1. Turn off the computer.
2. Close the screen cover and turn the computer over.
3. Slide the side battery latch away from the battery. Continue to hold it until the battery is removed.
4. Remove the battery.
5. Make sure the replacement battery is properly orientated. Slide back the side battery latch then insert the main battery into the battery compartment. Check that the latch locks back into position.
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Generally you need to remove the keyboard first, in front of your display there should be a removable cover. that will have very likely screws that are holding the case together and the display to the unit, the display needs to be removed also.

I have a acer aspire repair guide for you here,
acer-aspire-5100-laptop/">http://www.insidemylaptop.com/taking-apart-acer-aspire-5100-laptop/

Yes its for a acer laptop, I have acer laptops, sony, and compaq / hp laptops that I have here and these are all taken apart the same way, the cover comes off first and then you unscrew the display you may not need to remove the display depends.

you might be able to see the battery from under the keyboard. or it might not be there.

I think this will be enough for you to get it completely apart and find the battery and then replace it.

and yes its the bios battery that you need to replace, its mostly 3volt shape and size may wary.


let me know if any problems come up or if you need anythign else.
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Posted on May 24, 2009

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  • Ekse May 24, 2009

    on the acer guide page scroll down to removing laptop keyboard - there you will see how the part is removed on that computer, its very likely similiar on yours.

  • Ekse May 27, 2009

    I don't know of any special tricks, take the screen out of the unit incase its holding it.

  • Ekse May 27, 2009

    the screen should be detachable in most laptops, its holded place with a few screws and very likely is also holding the laptop together.

  • Ekse May 30, 2009

    You gotta take the damn monitor off from the notebook.

  • Ekse May 31, 2009

    Hi again,

    take the computer to a professional / any local computer repair / dealer. (that does NOT include best buy and those big stores) Try a local pro.


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