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High load and temperature in air compressor

It found that the air compressor has high load which leads to have high temperature and pressure

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    Compressor will not shut off at 150 psi...just keeps running and lifts safety valve. Have changed the check valve and safety. Still not fixed.

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The shut off and on is controled by the limit switch. There is contacts that springs pull down to contact there mating surfaces,the air builds up and over power the springs and lifts them up to shut off. So yours has maybe sparked enough to fuse together or someone has turned the adjusting nut which tightens the spring so it takes more air pressure to shut off. Make sure it is unpluged and remove the cover from the limit switch and look inside the cover for adjustmet instructions. Also check to see if the contact points are stuck together.

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I just saw the part about where you have high pressure. Are you using the regulator to regulate not only tank pressure but pressure going to tool? If the tank regulated pressure isn't working, that would account for both high pressure AND high temp. You can buy regulators relatively inexpensive. And don't for get to drain the condensation everytime you use it, or daily if it is a work tool.

Try dropping the tank pressure down to 150 PSI if you haven't done so. Tap the glass on the guage several times to make sure the needle isn't stuck.

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