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Lower loop thread falls out

The lower loop thread on my Kenmore over lock 2/3/4D machine falls out of the needle after 4-5 inches of stitching. It is threaded properly and on a lower tension number. I thought the lower tension would help to not pull the thread out of place. What do I do???

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1: try more tension
2: See if it is hanging on something and is breaking off.
3. The other treads maynot be threaded correctly and one is pulling on the lower loop thread.

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