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Lower right thread (green) keeps coming out of its eye!

Following the 'map' I seem to be threading the overlocker correctly, but just today the lower right (green) thread keeps coming out of its final eye.  This stops it from working.  It's odd, 'cause the thread continues to feed through, and appears unbroken, HELP!

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  • afile Apr 24, 2008

    I am having the same problem with the right (green) thread breaking. I went to the Hancock store where It was purchased and they had the same problem (with their display model) when they tried to show me how to thread it..Help!

  • jrose0102 May 14, 2008

    Thank you!! I'm sorry you're having problems, but I'm glad to know it's not just me. I have spent hours threading and re-threading the machine according to the diagrams in my manual, but can't seem to correct the problem. It is so weird because everything will start off fine and all of a sudden the threads stop locking and when I open the machine the lower looper thread has somehow escaped the eye of the looper--it is still correctly threaded everywhere else and the thread has not been broken (so one end is wound around the thread cone and the other is still locked up in my stitches but somehow the middle has escaped a seemingly solid metal looper--I can't understand how this is physically possible?...)

    From the other comments I wonder if this is a manufacturer's defect?

  • cnnhr429 Oct 21, 2008

    Someone HELP my janone 9102D botton looper keeps coming off the eye of the whatever it is called..Help...

  • yasir69 Nov 15, 2008

    I have spent hours threading and re-threading the machine according to the diagrams in my manual, but can't seem to correct the problem. It is so weird because everything will start off fine and all of a sudden the threads stop locking and when I open the machine the lower looper thread has somehow escaped the eye of the looper--it is still correctly threaded everywhere else and the thread has not been broken (so one end is wound around the thread cone and the other is still locked up in my stitches but somehow the middle has escaped a seemingly solid metal looper--I can't understand how this is physically possible?...)

  • sashaann Feb 10, 2009

    I have spent hours threading and re-threading the machine according to
    the diagrams in my manual, but can't seem to correct the problem. It is
    so weird because everything will start off fine and all of a sudden the
    threads stop locking and when I open the machine the lower looper
    thread has somehow escaped the eye of the looper--it is still correctly
    threaded everywhere else and the thread has not been broken (so one end
    is wound around the thread cone and the other is still locked up in my
    stitches but somehow the middle has escaped a seemingly solid metal
    looper--I can't understand how this is physically possible?...)

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Same problem here. I found out that as my thread is very lightweight, it runs down of the cone and tangles under the thread guide bar. Fixed it using anti tangle net threads

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Dear Louise I had the same problem and it was suggested to me that I change the needles as one of them could be bent. I have done this and the problem is no more. Good luck sewhat

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