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Intel celeron 2.13 GHz 64kb L1 128 kb L2 cache. sis FX661 agp. FSB 533MHZ. DDR400. Strangely enough, the memory seem to be under performing greatly.pc3200 mem reports to be working at 2100 speeds. Switch to different modules. This ones report correctly, however, benchmarks are extremly poor, as if memory was working at 133MHz even though it reports 400MHZ. I have reinstalled windows several times, updated the bios, got the latest chipset drivers, dont know what else to do. The benchmarks show the mem's bandwidth at around 1300 for reading and 900 for writting.Tried sandra, aida, passmark, all fluctuate around same results.3 different mem sticks all the same problem. I know the 533 MHZ FSB could limit performance but not by that much. Im prone to believe I have a faulty chipset, but why it isn't giving any other sign of malfunction??. Please, any insight would be gratly appreciated. Thank you

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To get the full performance out of 533 fsb, you need the next speed up from ddr400. since your ram cant run at 533mhz, it cuts the frequency down to 1/2 of 533, which is 266.

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Hello. I have an old pc that was handed down to me a couple years ago. I was wondering if the cpu is worth upgrading and if it is, would it be difficult and what would be an ideal part to use? The mot


http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite/Products/ProductsDetail.aspx?DetailID=360&CategoryID=1&DetailName=Feature&MenuID=45&LanID=0

Timothy P,

While I agree with your friend to a part, it also depends a lot on what AGP 8X graphics card you are using.

Also, you -> are using an AGP 8X graphics card, and Not a PCI graphics card, right?

To explain;

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit

The motherboard chipset for your PC Chips motherboard, uses a Northbridge chip, and a Southbridge chip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

The Northbridge chip handles the FASTER processes of a computer.
Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics technology.

High speed graphics technology such as AGP, and PCI-Express.

A graphics card installed in a PCI expansion slot, is NOT high-speed graphics.
Integrated Graphics is NOT high-speed graphics.

The Southbridge chip handles the SLOWER processes of a computer.
Anything connected to the;

1) PCI bus
2) IDE (PATA) bus
3) SATA bus
4) USB bus
5) Ethernet
6) Audio (Sound)

This is why the AGP expansion slot on your motherboard, is the best graphics expansion slot, on the motherboard.

Using an AGP graphics card?
Does it compare to this one?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6076197&CatId=2234

That one will make those games sit up, and bark, and you will be able to keep up with your friends. Video streaming? NO problem.
You will need a Minimum of a 400 Watt power supply, though.

If I may,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899123&CatId=1079

Now let's go to that 'Celey' processor.

It is a Celeron D. You may think it is a dual core processor, by the
D designation.
Nope. Not so. It is a Single-core processor,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeron_D#Celeron_D

Third paragraph down,
"The D suffix actually has no official designation, and does not indicate that these models are dual-core."

Plus to hinder you further;
A Celeron processor has less cache, than a comparable Pentium based processor.
(Less L2 cache)

Crude explanation of Processor cache;

You are preparing a paper for college. You need additional information. Where is it?

Down in the basement, under the stairs, in a box of books, and it is the last book on the bottom. Plus there is no light.

Down you go flashlight in hand. You dig through the box, and find the book you need. Back up the stairs you go, book in hand.
You flip the book open to the page you need.

After a little while you need more info. Where is it? Yep. Down in the basement.

OR, you press a couple of keys on the Keyboard in front of you, and have information you need in a couple of seconds, from your computer.

Less cache = Basement scenario
More cache = Computer scenario

Your motherboard chipset, will Not support dual core Intel processors.
But it will support an Intel Pentium 4 processor, that will smack that Celey, silly.

Specifications for the Intel Celeron D, Model 345,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Celeron_microprocessors#.22Prescott-256.22_.2890_nm.29

Scroll down to the subheading in blue in the far left column -
Celeron D 345.
Note under the heading - L2 cache
256MegaByte. (256MB)

3.06 GigaHertz maximum frequency rate.
(Excuse me, 'Speed')
[3066MegaHertz is rounded off to 3.06GHz]

533MHz Front Side Bus. (533MHz FSB)

Now let's look at an Intel Pentium 4 processor, that uses the Prescott Core, the 90nm architecture, and has a maximum frequency rate of 3.0GHz;

The Intel Pentium 4, 3.0E, with Hyperthreading Technology,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#Prescott_.2890.C2.A0nm.29_2

FOUR times the amount of L2 cache, and an 800MegaHertz FSB.

Expensive? Hmmmm,

http://micropartsusa.com/bx80546pg3000e-intel-pentium-4-3-0ghz-processor-28kb-l1-cache-1mb-l2-cache-fsb-800mhz-478-pins-micropga-refurbished.html

36 bucks?

Will your motherboard support it?
I can go into facts, and figures, but I think I will cheat, lol!

http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite/Support/CPU_Support_Model.aspx?detailid=360&MenuID=69&LanID=0

Third one down.

Also,......1GB of Ram Memory? Ummm, no.
You need 2GB's.
Should be DDR Sdram at 400MHz, also.
(PC3200)

The frequency rate ('Speed') doesn't matter as much, as the AMOUNT, however.
Even if it is DDR Sdram at 333MHz, you need 2GB.
(PC2700)

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

(Your motherboard chipset is a SiS 661FX - Northbridge chip,
and a SiS 964L - Southbridge chip,

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/chipsets_d/SiS/661FX+964L/

Jul 31, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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What type of dual core processor can I use for my dc7600?


The motherboard for the dc7600 has an Intel LGA775 processor socket. However, not all LGA775 processors are compatible with the motherboard. For the small form factor, the following CPUs are supported: Intel Celeron D Processors:
Intel Celeron D 331 Processor (2.66-GHz, 256K L2 cache, 533-MHz FSB) , Intel Celeron D 336 Processor (2.80-GHz, 256K L2 cache, 533-MHz FSB) , Intel Celeron D 346 Processor (3.06-GHz, 256K L2 cache, 533-MHz FSB)
Intel Pentium 4 Processors with HT Technology:
Intel Pentium 4 521 Processor (2.8-GHz, 1-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB) , Intel Pentium 4 524 Processor (3.06-GHz, 1-MB L2 cache, 533-MHz FSB) , Intel Pentium 4 541 Processor (3.2-GHz, 1-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 620 Processor (2.8-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 630 Processor (3.0-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 631 Processor (3.0-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 640 Processor (3.2-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 641 Processor (3.2-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 650 Processor (3.4-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 651 Processor (3.4-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium 4 661 Processor (3.6-GHz, 2-MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB) or
Intel Pentium D Dual Core Processors:
Intel Pentium D 805 Dual Core Processor (2.66-GHz, 2x1MB L2 cache, 533-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 820 Dual Core Processor (2.8-GHz, 2x1MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 915 Dual Core Processor (2.8-GHz, 2x2MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 925 Dual Core Processor (3.0-GHz, 2x2MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 930 Dual Core Processor (3.0-GHz, 2x2MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 940 Dual Core Processor (3.2-GHz, 2x2MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 945 Dual Core Processor (3.4-GHz, 2x2MB L2 cache, 800-MHz FSB), Intel Pentium D 950 Dual Core Processor (3.4-GHz, 2x2MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB)

Unfortunately, these are old processors and I don't see any available new. Newegg.com lists a couple available as refurbished. You may be better off getting a new computer with either a Intel I3 or current AMD processor.

I wish that I had better news for you.

Cindy Wells
(do not attempt to use a CPU that your motherboard doesn't support. It probably won't boot.)

Mar 30, 2012 | HP Compaq dc7600 Small Form Factor PC...

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Can i use 2.8ghz cpu for my p4s533-e?


this is what asus says:

arrow-org.gif Latest P4 CPU Support
The latest P4S533-E motherboard supports Socket 478 Intel® P4 processors, which utilize the most advanced 0.13um process technology to provide frequencies up to 2.53GHz

Mar 23, 2010 | ASUS P4S533-E Motherboard

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Does my w3507 have an agp port


No it does not have an agp port. IT has a PCI Express Port for video cards. Its much better and faster.
Details on your machine and what it has can be found at this link. Hope it helps.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2912877&CatId=2643

Nov 10, 2009 | eMachines W3507 PC Desktop

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I need to upgrade my processor Intel Celeron CPU 2.0 Ghz L2 cache memory 128 kb System bus 400 mhz. What do you recommend.? Thanks


Find out the type of motherboard installed in your system and that will determine your upgrade possibilities.
Check your manual or if competent enough open the case and should be a label on the motherboard telling you what type. Get the number and google for answer

Jul 11, 2009 | Intel Celeron A, 2 GHz (BX80532RC2000B)...

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Cpu upgrade


Your computer has one of these options:
spacer.gif level2_arrow.gif Intel® Celeron® Processor 560
(1MB L2 cache, 2.13GHz, 533MHz FSB)
or
Intel® Celeron® Processor 550
(1MB L2 cache, 2.0GHz, 533MHz FSB)
or
Intel® Celeron® Processor 540
(1MB L2 cache, 1.86GHz, 533MHz FS
or
Intel® Celeron® Dual-Core Processor E1400
(512KB shared L2 Cache, 2.0GHz, 800MHz FSB)
or
Intel® Celeron® Dual-Core Processor T1400
(512KB shared L2 Cache, 1.73GHz, 533MHz FSB) spacer.gif

Check the features with Acer first and see if your motherboard model support that speed processor.
Contact tech support directly to the manufacturer right here:

http://acer.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/acer.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php?p_sid=8P57rbgj

Oct 13, 2008 | Acer Aspire 5315 Notebook

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ASUS P4S333-M What is the maximum CPU this bouard will run


P4S533-MX
The following table shows the support for CPU / Motherboard
CPU

Since PCB

Since BIOS

Note
Celeron 1.7 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
ALL

Celeron 1.8 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
ALL

Celeron 2.0 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
ALL

Celeron 2.1 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
ALL

Celeron 2.2 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
ALL

Celeron 2.3 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
1005

Celeron 2.4 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
1005

Celeron 2.5 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
1006

Celeron 2.6 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
1006

Celeron 2.7 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
1006

Celeron 2.8 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:128KB) ALL
1006

P4-1.4 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.5 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.6 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.6A GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.7 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.8 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.8A GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-1.9 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2 GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:256KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.20 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.26 GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.40 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL
P4-2.40B GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.50 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.53 GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.60 GHz (400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.66 GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2.80 GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-2A GHz (Socket478, 400 FSB, L2 cache:512KB) ALL
ALL

P4-3.06 GHz (533 FSB, L2 cache:512KB, HT, C1/D1) ALL
ALL
Since PCB 2.0 or later support HT Function

Jun 22, 2008 | Computers & Internet

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Is my laptop core2 duo


Hi
I am a Dell Certified System Engnieer(DCSE)

the best option would be you check it yourself
what you have to do is log on to this link
www.support.dell.com
on the left hand side you will find an option warranty information
then click on warranty status
putin your system's service tag
your system's service tag located at the bottom pannel of your system, turn it upside down you will find a bar coded sticker which has a 7 digit alphanumeric number
then press enter
then click on the option orignal system configuration
whatever you see here is there in your system.

Jun 10, 2008 | Dell Inspiron 1501 Notebook

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Processor compatibility


looks like you limited to the p4 Prescott, this is a p4 list of the cpu support from asus. I also looked at their bios update page and found no bios improvement. if you can move to the 775 platform ,you can move from p4. otherwise, the p4's are still  good . I had the cpu that is the 2nd one down. 3.2ghz oc'd to 3.8ghz full time with a max of 4.0ghz on air[775 platform] quad-pumped gave me a 1001.3mhz FSB
Supports Intel Prescott CPU
4-3.20 GHz Extreme Ed. (800 FSB, HT)   ALL ALL gogo.gif
P4-3.20E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm)   ALL 1006 gogo.gif
P4-3.40 GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, rev.G1)   ALL 1011 gogo.gif
P4-3.40 GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:512KB, HT, D1)   ALL ALL gogo.gif
P4-3.40 GHz Extreme Ed. (Socket478, 800 FSB, HT)   ALL ALL gogo.gif
P4-3.40E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm)   2.00 1006 gogo.gif
P4-3E GHz (800 FSB, L2 cache:1MB, HT, 90nm)  
SEE 4 YOURSELF
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=156822

Oct 30, 2007 | ASUS P4P800 SE (890552603657) Motherboard

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