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Wiring the fan and light control

Is there a way to connect the fan and light control to without having to run a separate wire from the receptacle to the ceiling fan?

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You have to run a 3 wire cable to use that sort of switch. I could probably do some illegal wiring to make it work anyways. To cheat make the ground your new neutral wire. Make the old white into a switched wire and the black into the other switched wire. You can wrap red tape on the white wire to make it more legal.

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No, the way the motor speed control works is different from the way a light dims. If you connect it, it might work for a while, but it will either burn up the dimmer or the fan motor.

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