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Anonymous Posted on Nov 25, 2017

Drive shaft bearing

Hello, I need to remove the bearing race for the auger drive shaft. I have split the gear box removed clip in front of the race found the four holes on the back side and used a punch and drove the race about half way out and it stopped. I was wanting to know if i need to remove anything else in front of the race? Thanks

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 19, 2007

SOURCE: planetary shaft for h600 is bent

Thats the center shaft and if it moves back and forth the lower bearing is bad or the shaft has cracked.You need to remove all 3 shaft assemblys. if you already removed the gears on the center shaft then you need to remove the shifting yoke---turn power off to machine then take the screws off the trim plate where you shift speeds,you might see a switch that sits up on the shifter cam,remove the screws and put switch aside,take the 4 allen screws off and pull on the shifter(it will come out).If you didnt already drain the oil do it before you mess with the shifter.after the shifter is out grab the upper left gear assy. and the gear assy. below it,rock both gear assy. and pull up,they will both come out(you might need some force)once out remove the remaining gears on the center shaft and remove the shifting yokes.you then need to remove the planetary (lower part of mixer)if not already done,then pull the shaft out from the bottom.any questions let me know.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 04, 2008

SOURCE: hobart h400

Greg,email the pics--there is a oil/grease flinger that can be installed if the model is right.I need the serial #,ml #.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 01, 2009

SOURCE: How to remove key from D300 Mixer to replace stripped gear

motor runs but shaft stays still

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http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%208212057.pdf

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http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%208212057.pdf

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http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%208212010.pdf

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6. Tap gently on the top of the agitator shaft to drive it out from the bearings and grease seal.
7. Recommend removing and replacing the top bearing at this time; it's inexpensive to replace, if you're in this deep.
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11. Fill cavity with approved lubricant. I use USP-grade mineral oil, as it is food-safe and provides satisfactory lubricity.
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12. Reverse steps 5-1 to reassemble.
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