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Water not coming through espresso side although steam wand works fine

When brewing espresso, I get only a small amount of actual espresso. There is plenty of water in the reservoir, and the steam wand works fine - but when I finish steaming the milk and dial back to continue with espresso, no more water is forced through the ground espresso. When I turn the dial back to steam, steam continues. Something seems to be blocking the water on the espresso side. I doubt that the espresso is ground too fine or is packed too hard. Is there a cleaning solution?

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Re: Water not coming through espresso side although steam...

You both can have same problem, solution is:

  1. low pressure of pump (or too fone grinded coffee)
  2. security valve of boiler openes to early and dont let the pump to rise pressure enough for good brewing( if it is this you can see water returning back to container if you have 2nd pipe in your machines reservoir)

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