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Which o2 sensor to change for codes p0420 in 2005 mazda 3 where the catalyst is missing

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No cat this must be a middle east model then ,they have no cats or O2 sensors


P0420 Catalytic Converter System -Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)

Which makes a mockery of europeon anti poloution laws let alone californian controls .These middle east countries should be forced to introduce emmision control laws .

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  • Posted on May 24, 2009

SOURCE: Location O2 sensor after cat for Mazda Miata 2002

Just had BOTH of my O2 sensors replaced in my 2002 Miata.  The sensors are located
1. at the back of the engine compartment look down (on the passenger side ) You should see a spark plug looking device near the bottom of the engine (on the side) it has a short wire output that goes to a connector looking device on the other end. This O2 sensor had a short wire connector on the other end
Probably can be replaced from the top.
2.  This one is tougher --- From underneath the vehicle just after the catalytic converter  you should be able to see the Spark plug like O2 sensor .  The person who repaired it for me had to trace the wire from the O2 sensor.  It goes up into ( perhaps the frame or bottom of the vehicle INTO the Driver compartment under the drivers seat.  It is located near the Center Console  right at the carpet seam. It was about in a straight line from the BACK of the Drivers side Car Door.  He felt around -- and located the Connector (under the carpet near the center console. .  He checked underneath the car to the point where the wire disappeared --to confirm he had the correct wire.  
Once he located where the sensor wire led to --He had the old sensor out and wire connector disconnected and a  New sensor and the connector installed in about 10 minutes.  
The O2 sensor for this one was much longer than the first O2 sensor in the engine compartment He had to use some sort of standard release spray on the old sensor itself --to remove the old O2 Sensor.   Since it is exposed to the elements under the car.   Wrench, I think a screwdriver  and the spray were all the tools I remember him using.....

The autozone code indicated only the engine compartment sensor was bad.
The repair man told me Both usually go bad at the same time.  
I fixed the first one only -- turned out the warning light lit up a day or so later indicating the second O2 Sensor under the vehicle was bad.  Fixed that as well -- have had no problems since -- repair was about 4 months ago.....

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 26, 2009

SOURCE: have a code po 430 catalyst efficiency below

You def have a catayst problem. Before changing the converter i would recommend changing both up and down stream oxygen sensor on bank 2. If they are old thats what the computer determines if the catalyst is good or not. Most of the time after changing the sensors and resetting the light the problem is solved.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 13, 2011

SOURCE: Code P0133-02 (o2 sensor slow

just because you have a slow response code does not mean that you have a bad sensor, the slow response code is just telling you that the fuel system is very slow to respond to fuel delivery changes, this could be caused by many different things it could be as simple as the oil is contaminated with fuel, it could also be a problem with the fuel pressure, could also be a vacuum leak. the fact that you keep getting the same code with different sensors tells me that the problem is not the sensor but the fuel injection system. there is a flow chart for the fuel system and i am afraid you are going to have to have someone run a diag. check on the fuel system.....SORRY

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P0420

Hi Osar-
I pulled this link from ODB-codes.com. It lists the possible causes, diagnostics and resolution for engine code issues. Hope this helps!
P0420 OBD II Trouble Code
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Can you please tell me which catalyst converter on bank 2

the car is to new to replace the catalyst onverter. it takes time for the code to get out of the system. will help also is some fuel injector cleaner
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Hi, I need to take my 2001 Mazda 626 4cyln for SMOG check in CA. But its check engine light is on, diagnosed as code P0421. Appreciate your help to fix this problem, or just to pass the check. Thank you.

CODE P0421. DEFINITION-CATALYST EFFICIENCY LOW-BANK 1. EXPLANATION-THE OXYGEN SENSORS MONITOR THE CATALYTIC CONVERTERS ABILITY TO STORE OXYGEN. PROBLEM CAUSES- 1. CATALYTIC CONVERTER DEFECTIVE (FAILURE POSSIBLY DUE TO #2,3, OR 4) 2. ENGINE MISFIRE OR RUNNING CONDITION. 3. LARGE VACCUM LEAK 4. ENGINE OIL LEAKAGE INTO EXHAUST-VALVE GUIDE SEALS, PISTON RINGS. THE PCM HAS DETERMINED THAT THE WARM UP CATALYST EFFICIENCY FOR BANK 1 IS BELOW TRESHOLD FOR THE CURRENT ENGINE OPERATING CONDITION. (BANK 1 IDENTIFIES THE LOCATION OF CYLINDER #1, WHILE BANK 2 IDENTIFIES THE CYLINDERS ON THE OPPOSITE BANK).

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2006 hundai elantra P2270 code. If this is an O2 sensor, which one?

Possible O2 sensors:

P2270 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Lean Bank 1 Sensor 2
P2271 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich Bank 1 Sensor 2
P2272 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Lean Bank 2 Sensor 2
P2273 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich Bank 2 Sensor 2
P2274 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Lean Bank 1 Sensor 3
P2275 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich Bank 1 Sensor 3
P2276 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Lean Bank 2 Sensor 3
P2277 O2 Sensor Signal Stuck Rich Bank 2 Sensor 3
P2278 O2 Sensor Signals Swapped Bank 1 Sensor 3 / Bank 2 Sensor 3
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This is Bank 1 (closer to the dash panel) Sensor 2 (located after the catalytic converter).

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Note: A malfunctioning front oxygen sensor may cause fuel trim codes to set.
  1. Several Diagnostic Trouble Codes use specific terminology to refer to sensor location. The illustration and key below explain the following terms:
  2. Engine BANK Bank 1 is closer to the dash panel, (also referred to as RH or right hand). Bank 2 is closer to the radiator, (also referred to as LH or left hand).
  3. UP Refers to Sensor 1 or "front sensor". It is located closer to the exhaust manifold and before the catalytic converter.
  4. DOWN Refers to Sensor 2 or "rear sensor." It is located after the catalytic converter.
  5. The following examples show how to interpret oxygen sensor terminology:
  6. B1/S1 = Bank 1/Sensor 1 = Dash panel side, BEFORE the catalyst or "upstream"
  7. B2/S2 = Bank 2/Sensor 2 = Radiator side, AFTER the catalyst or "downstream"
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Fault code P0133 can't pass inspection.

This code does not always mean the O2 sensor is low, but if u want to replace it here is the info to do that and the part number.

The sensor you want is the one in the exhaust pipe of the engine cylinder bank that has #1 cylinder in it, as you face the engine with the hood open the cylinder bank u want is the rear bank, u will need to jack the car up and get under it to remove the sensor, u may also need a special socket to remove it, the sensor is the one that is before the catalytic converter. part number is:DENSO Part # 2344068
REAR; Before Catalyst
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I have a 2004 Mazda 3. Check engine light came on. After a couple days it went off. Then a couple days later it came back on. Code was P0421, Warm up catalyst effeciency below threshold bank 1. I am...

It can be hard to say which it is, because either one will trip the the code, but in this case I'd place my bet on it being the O2 sensor because it says "warm up" - the O2 sensor has to be up to temperature (around 900 degrees) to function. The computer watches for the O2 sensor to heat up in a certain amount of time, and if it doesn't get to temperature soon enough, the computer diagnoses a faulty heater for the O2 sensor and trips the code.

For the record, this would be the secondary O2 sensor, the one after the cat. That's the one that is used to determine cat functionality and efficiency. The primary sensor, before the cat, is used to fine-tune the fuel delivery.
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