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Tamer Gad Posted on Oct 23, 2013

Hi-hat is triggring sound while in the closed position. and splash can't be produced

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Check the following on a VH-11 HiHat.... both cables connected correctly, top playing surface is clear of the inner ring on the lower sensor when in the fully up position, power the module OFF, keep sticks & foot well clear of the HiHat then power ON, finally check the calibration settings (I assume the 15 has that as my TD12 does) If still nogo check on the VDrums forum website....

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pedal broken, stuck in closed position
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Studio Recording at Home; Part Deux

This tip, continuing the series of Home Studio Recording, focuses on the hardest part of accomplishing this feat: Drums.

A big sound killer on 'budget' recordings is poorly recorded drums. There is a remedy, though. If you have one set of drum mics, buy another (or borrow. This will come into play later, though).

If you have clips that hold them on the drums, great. With the two sets, you'll only use half of the clips. For the rest of the mics, you'll want stands. You'll need one stand for each drum, plus six.

The dual mics serve this purpose: To capture the sound of the whole drum. One mic for the batter head (the side you hit), and one for the resonator (the side you don't).

For the batter head, you'll use the mic clips, and attach the mics as you normally would during playing. For the resonator head, use the stands to position the mic directly across the drum, making a straight line from the top of the drum to the bottom. This will help eliminate any voicing differences, which can be a real headache.

For the bass drum, you'll need 2 stands. Position the batter head mic close to the edge of the head on whatever side is easiest to access, but is also comfortable for your playing style.

Aim the mic so that it is pointed at a midway point between the center of the head and the edge. You can experiment with different spots, but be sure to NEVER let the mic be directly in front of the head.
For the bass resonator head (the front one that everybody sees), position the mic so that it is a mirror image of the batter mic. Once again, this gets rid of voicing problems.

You have just miked your drum kit, but what about cymbals? That's where the other 4 mics and stands come into play. Those 4 will take care of:

Hi-hats

Ride

Overheads

For the hi-hats, you'll want to position the mic about 3-5 inches from the top, and 2-4 inches from the side. It's best to come in from the outside of the kit, so that you'll pick up a bit of ambiance (the rest of the kit, as well as some natural reverb). Point the mic at a point close to midway between the bell and edge of the hats. Too close to the edge, and you'll get a sound similar to banging trash can lids together. Too close to the bell, and there's too much high-mid noise that CANNOT be reduced with an EQ.

For the ride, follow the same instructions for the hi-hats, but add about 2 inches to the distances. Aim the mic a little closer to the center as well, so that the mic will pick up any bell hits. A good spot is 1/4 the distance between the bell and edge.

Now for overheads. These are the mics that not only record the cymbals, but pick up the most ambiance.

NOTICE: I haven't already mentioned it, but you do NOT want to record with the drum kit up against a wall, nor do you want it in the center of the room. For best results, use the midway rule (as with placing mics on drums and cymbals, place the kit midway between the center of the room and the edge, preferably headed towards a corner). This will reduce unwanted echoes in the room due to sound reflection.

You will want to place the overheads about 1.5 feet above the highest cymbal. Space them out so that the entire kit is between them, but be sure to keep them evenly spaced. You'll want to use the snare as a midway marker for the placement of overhead mics, since it is your loudest drum, and more likely to be picked up in the overheads than any other drum. This will also keep the snare panned center (you'll be panning the drums out to the left and right later on the mixer, but the snare and bass stay center).

These are some guidelines for setting up mics for recording drums at home. I hope that helps, and stay tuned for Part Trés of Home Studio Recording.
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Dtxpress ii

Open pedal, check with Ohm Meter when you open/close it at the connector.
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The hi hat on the DTXplorer is not making any sound

is it on the other piece of the Hi-HAt if yes its because of that. Also it can be because the pedal it's not attach to the hi-hat. to make sound u need to put it 1 to 3 cm from each other.
Sep 05, 2011 • Music
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Where does hihat control cord go

The hi-hat trigger goes into trigger #1. Using a footswitch will change the hi-hat trigger sound to a closed hi-hat. On page 8 of the user manual is the list of triggers and their assignments. Note that some new triggers from newer drumsets use TRS cables because they have two sensors within the drum head... Often the new ones have a rim shot snare trigger as well as a trigger for the mesh head. These newer different brand triggers would require special cables to be made to attempt to use them with the DM5. The DM5 is older technology now but is still useful.
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I have a bottom 13" k custom hat and want to see if it can go with a paiste 13" rude sound edge bottom

As long as they're both 13", you shouldn't have a problem putting them together. As for the sound, that's a matter of personal taste (I prefer Sabian mixed with Zildjian myself).


Hope that helps!

Btw, I’m available to help over the phone in case u need at https://www.6ya.com/expert/cameron_463100ffd54b591d

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In some pictures for the Yamaha DTXpress IV Special, the hit-hat has this trigger system under it and other pictures don't.What is it?

I see pictures that show an extra device beneath the Hi-Hat and the ads mention a "stereo hi-hat controller"... on the RHH130 there is a clutch to improve the feel of the Hi Hat... I think this is what you see in some ads.

Cut and paste:

This hi-hat pad design attaches to a standard hi-hat stand. Inside of the pad is a sensor system and built-in hi-hat clutch that feels,realistic when pressed. The RHH130 also features a dual zone design consisting of pad and edge sections that offer greater dynamic realism. The pad can also produce a foot splash.
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I have a problems with my HI-HAT control. When I put a pedal for HI HAT controler down, you can play HI HAT, but in the next 20 second the pedal not choke HI HAT cimbal...What can i do? Thanks

Verify that the pedal is the CORRECT type for what you are using it for.

Pedals came in MANY varieties. I would ask the store where you got the items about it.

Pedals can be switch type either normally open or closed, Variable resistance/volume control, pulse type like the kick drum pedals that generate a varying trigger pulse...
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Hi Hat pedal not fuctioning

Obviously the hi hat trigger does not function properly, it either does not generate enough signal, or the signal doesn't come thru well, or the signal comes thru well but it doesn't trigger the sound unit properly.

This could be caused by:

- too low input sensitivity setting on the sound unit for the hi hat input
- a displaced or loosely fixed sensor (trigger) on the hi hat
- a partially damaged sensor
- a bad wire connection at the sensor
- a bad wire connection at the sensor connector
- a dirty contact on the sensor connector
- a dirty contact on the cable connector at either side of the cable
- a bad cable, a broken wire or poorly soldered wire in the cable connector at either side of the cable
- a dirty contact on the input connector of the sound unit
- a bad solder connection on the input connector of the sound unit (inside the unit)
- a bad solder contact on a component or a faulty component associated to that particular input in the sound unit (capacitors, resistors, diodes, transistors, ICs, etc.)

To rule out a damaged cable, just change it and see if the hi hat works ok with another cable, if it does, the cable was damaged.

If the sensors are interchangeable , try to swap the sensor with a sensor from another cymbal, see if the other sensor works well, if it doesn't, then the sensors are not the problem.

To see if there is a problem with the input on the sound unit, connect another cymbal to that input, if it works well, the input is not the problem, if it still doesn't work, check sensitivity/trigger level setting, check connector contacts for any dirt, check connector and component solder contacts inside the unit.

Also, try to connect the hi hat to another input on the sound unit, if it doesn't work well after that, there's a problem with your hi hat (sensor, wires, dirty connector on the sensor), if it works well instead, then there's a problem with the hi hat input on the sound unit (sensitivity/trigger level, dirty connector contacts, bad solder contacts, damaged components)

Another thing: try your hi hat connected as is, but have someone move the cable connectors while you play it.
If moving the cable connector at the sensor side results in a change of operation (it might start working well for an instant or so), you definitely have a problem with that connection (check for bad wires in sensor connector, cable connector and for dirt on both connectors' pins).

If moving the cable connector at the sound unit input side results in a change of operation, then there's a problem with that connection (check for bad solder points on the input connector inside the sound unit, check for bad wires in cable connector, check for dirt on both connectors' pins).

I hope you can fix it, otherwise just post me some feedback if anything seems unclear, i'll be glad to assist you.

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DTXpress III Special Yamaha Drum Kit - high hat won't sound closed

solution!! you go to "voice" hit the hihat pedal, then press "page" till you get to hhat ofset and bring the value to negative. approx -25. pressure that you applied to hhat pedal becomes less
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