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My first of this pump (103260LF) lasted 10 years recirculating hot water in my residence before it started making lots of noise. I replaced it with an identical model, which lasted 3 years and now is making noise. Both were on a thermostat so didn't run continuously. Are these repairable? Is there a decent flanged replacement which may last longer?

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It sounds like you may have some contamination in your system or just got a bad draw. You have a good brand of pump, check with the manufacture. If it were me I would get the old one rebuilt, switch and rebuild this one yielding you a spare, might handy when it is real cold outside.

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Unplug and replace.
Pumps get old and slow, and when they slow up they get hot, which damages pump more, so they get hotter until they stop working.
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Cost calculations for recirculation system vary widely.
These systems cost more, and they cause higher operation cost of water heater.

1) When pump is OFF, then hot water is no longer leaving the tank.
Most recirculation systems have choice of timer for setting specific times of operation, or thermostatic operation that activates pump when sensor detects temperature less than 90 degrees
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2) Condition of plumbing is suspect here because you are not receiving fully 90 degree hot water from the recirculation system.?.

Bad single-handle faucet cartridge, or bad recirculation check valve, are causes of crossover. Clean recirculation check valve with white vinegar. Replace worn faucet cartridge.
Test for crossover.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html

3) There are other suspects, such as water leak.
Drips, broken pipe, bad TP valve.
Turn off all taps and put ear against pipe to listen for running water.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html#listen

4) High costs: Lifting single-handle faucet in middle will immediately cause cold water to enter tank. Even if no hot arrives at tap, because the cartridge is drawing both hot and cold in equal amounts when handle is lifted in middle.
Today it is more efficient to install dual-handle faucets so tank is not receiving constant dose of cold water when single-handle faucet is not used correctly or tediously.
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1) The pump is not working? Does the pump make a noise? if pump is not working full-time, it can cause delay in arrival.
If pump motor is suspect, and outlet has power, then check override switch located on timer. Set override to Timer, move some of the trippers outward, then manually rotate timer dial until pump turns ON.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/IMG_9325-grundfos-timer-800.jpg
If no noise is detected, or noise stops and starts, or seems strained, or if pump is hot, then pump motor may have burned out.

2) If pump is working, and makes noise like a humming sound, and pump motor is not hot, but hot water is not circulating, then unplug pump so it will not overheat and burn up.
Disassemble the pump and cross-over piece. Clean piping with white vinegar or CLR. Do not soak in CLR or it will damage seals. Rinse parts thoroughly. Reassemble and see if problem is resolved.
If pump is vibrating, then suspects include sediment and/or air inside line, and this can be resolved by cleaning as described. Also install air vent to increase life of pump.

3) Other causes for hot water delay at faucet are crossover.
Crossover can be caused by bad single-handled faucet cartridge, and/or by clogged-or-failed check valve on cross-over piece on grundfos.
This type of problem lets cold water enter hot line, and causes delay in arrival of hot water. Clean-or-replace the grundfos cross-over piece, and replace bad faucet cartridge.
Open following link for testing instructions:
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Resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-recirculation-system.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Troubleshoot-recirculation.pdf

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Pump not working-delay in hot water delivery.In the past,a vibration occurred when cold water running above the pump.Can this be repaired.Power operating to pump. Thanks, mel ross


Question not 100% clear.

1) The pump is not working? Does the pump make a noise? if pump is not working full-time, it can cause delay in arrival.
If pump motor is suspect, and outlet has power, then check override switch located on timer. Set override to Timer, move some of the trippers outward, then manually rotate timer dial until pump turns ON.
http://waterheatertimer.org/images/IMG_9325-grundfos-timer-800.jpg
If no noise is detected, or noise stops and starts, or seems strained, or if pump is hot, then pump motor may have burned out.

2) If pump is working, and makes noise like a humming sound, and pump motor is not hot, but hot water is not circulating, then unplug pump so it will not overheat and burn up.
Disassemble the pump and cross-over piece. Clean piping with white vinegar or CLR. Do not soak in CLR or it will damage seals. Rinse parts thoroughly. Reassemble and see if problem is resolved.
If pump is vibrating, then suspects include sediment and/or air inside line, and this can be resolved by cleaning as described. Also install air vent to increase life of pump.

3) Other causes for hot water delay at faucet are crossover.
Crossover can be caused by bad single-handled faucet cartridge, and/or by clogged-or-failed check valve on cross-over piece on grundfos.
This type of problem lets cold water enter hot line, and causes delay in arrival of hot water. Clean-or-replace the grundfos cross-over piece, and replace bad faucet cartridge.
Open following link for testing instructions:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Crossover.html

Resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-recirculation-system.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/Troubleshoot-recirculation.pdf

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Instructions say pegs pulled out = timer on
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