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Thermocouple No gas flow past spring loaded t/c valve even when knob is pushed all the way in.

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Is the gas line primed? could be just air coming out?
Otherwise, your gas valve is failing?

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The burners and pilot light work but the oven will not light. We need to figure out which part to replace. It is a unit converted for propane and has no electric parts.


Ovens generally have a couple of safety devices fitted meaning no gas gets to the oven unless there is sufficient gas pressure. There is also a valve controlled by a thermocouple. The valve prevents gas passing. There is a bypass operated by either a button or pressing in the oven control knob which allows gas to flow to the pilot light (and sometimes the burners). When the pilot light is lighted and has been burning for about half a minute with the flame correctly set to heat the thermocouple bulb the valve will switch on the gas supply and the knob or button can be released. The burners will initially be at maximum until the oven thermostat reduces the flow to maintain the temperature at a preset level.

If gas isn't reaching the oven and the pipework, oven control and thermostat is ok then the safety thermocouple is either defective or wrongly fitted.

Apr 24, 2016 | Kitchen Ranges

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Village series QV32B pilot light won't stay lit


Classic symptom of a malfunctioning thermocouple. When you press the knob, you force the gas valve open so gas will flow. The function of the thermocouple is to confirm that the pilot is lit and allow gas to continue to flow when you release the valve. A new thermocouple is not that expensive. Good luck!

Jan 05, 2015 | Heating & Cooling

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Pilot light went out. Cant relight, has a remote and sensor. Makes noise but wont light


Your question is not very detailed, but here are some general considerations that might be of some use.

1. Be careful! If you don't know what you're doing, you could get into trouble. If ithe appliance has a standing pilot, very likely you are connected to a gas utility company. What I mean is, the appliance uses natural gas from a central source brought into your home through a meter, rather than using bottled gas like LPG or propane. If there is a utility, call them. They are often very happy to come to your home to relight pilots very promptly and without charge, because a) it is good customer service, b) you'll use more of their product, and c) blowing up your house is very bad publicity for them. Call them and ask.

2. Your appliance gets its gas through a gas valve. Gas valves have a number of safety features. If the pilot goes out, for example, the gas valve won't open, in order to avoid a situation where a large volume of gas collects in your house, waiting for a catastrophic spark. This safety feature has a catch, though. If the pilot is out and the gas valve won't open, how do you get gas to the pilot light in the first place? The answer is that most gas valves have a control knob with three positions, OFF, LIGHT or PILOT, and ON. To light the pilot, you must turn the valve to the PILOT position, and THEN HOLD IT IN THAT POSITION while you light the pilot flame with a match or taper. You have to hold it because the knob has a spring which turns it to OFF if you don't hang on. Once the pilot flame is ignited YOU MUST CONTINUE TO HOLD IT FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS and then turn it to the ON position. Positioned right in the flame there should be a metallic bulb or tube, called the thermocouple. The pilot flame heats the thermocouple, and the hot thermocouple signals the valve that there is a safe situation, namely that the pilot light is burning, so any gas that flows to the main burner will be ignited by the burning pilot flame, and not allowed to build up into a dangerous cloud. You wait for 30 seconds in order to make sure the thermocouple is hot, and then TURN IT TO ON WITHOUT LETTING GO OF THE KNOB. Remember that you are holding the valve open so that a safety spring does not automatically close it. If you relax your grip or let the knob slip,the spring will instantly shut off gas to the pilot and you will have to start over.

3. If you perform the lighting and holding for 30 seconds technique as in step 2, and the pilot goes out as soon as you turn it to ON, then there are two possibilities. One possibility is that the thermocouple is not standing right in the pilot's flame, that it somehow got bumped out of the way, and it is not getting hot enough to send a signal. You can verify that its location is right while the pilot flame is burning. If you can see that it is not in the flame, wait for it to cool and then VERY GENTLY bend it into a better position and try #2 again. If you still have no luck, it almost certainly means that the thermocouple is bad and needs to be replaced. They last many years, but not forever.

4. If much of what I wrote is unfamiliar to you, I urge you to call your local gas utility. If they can't get it to work, then get in touch with a qualified repairman; DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLACE THE THERMOCOUPLE YOURSELF.

Hope this helps.

Nov 01, 2014 | Home

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I have a Frigidaire model FCG30B6Q0JWI-5A gas stove (Made in Costa Rica) and can't get the oven to stay lit. There is no electronic ignition, no pilot, it's just a regular run-of-the-mill light a...


Hello,

While your holding in the knob after lighting the pilot,their is a thermocoupler that is heating up and will hold automatically what your pushing in, that thermocoupler is defective

Jul 28, 2011 | Ovens

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Pilot light won't light and I changed the thermo coupler.


Don't know what type of gas appliance your are working on, but if you installed a thermocouple, the biggest mistake made is screwing it into the control valve to tightly. When installing a thermocouple, it should be tightened only finger tight and with an appropriately sized wrench turned only a quarter turn more. Over tightening it will casue the gas control valve to lockup and gas can't reach the pilot.

Also, after reinstalling the thermocouple, be sure the control knob is really in the Pilot position. You can tell if it is, as knob will fully depress and bottom out,. And you'll feel more than spring pressure pushing back at you.

Hope this helped you to troubleshoot and solve the problem.

Apr 17, 2011 | Heating & Cooling

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How do you turn the pilot light back on? This is an older model, probably about 10 years old or so.


Move the gas valve knob to the PILOT position and press down on the knob. You will be pressing down on a spring loaded safety magnet. Now light the pilot and keep holding down the knob till the thermocouple gets hot enough to produce electrical current and hold that spring loaded magnet in. This is your safety device. If the heat gets too hot the furnace has a fuse in line with that magnet.
When the pilot stays lit by itself without you having to hold down the button then advance the knob to the ON position. Then go to the wall thermostat and turn on the heater.

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Nov 11, 2010 | Williams 6508732 Gas Heater

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I have to hold the knob in to keep it running, and sometimes you do not have to push in the knob at all, it will work when turning unit from off to low and then using push igniter the unit will run without...


Hello
This sounds like a bad thermocouple,a small copper tube running from the pilot lite area to the gas valve which feels heat and keeps the gas valve open for gas to flow through,when calling for heat and also keeps the pilot light lit.

Try replacing it,br sure all gas is off prior to doing any work to unit.

Hope this helps.

Feb 02, 2010 | Heating & Cooling

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Belling G755 Cooker oven wont stay lit


I'll give this a go! With a cooker like this, you depress and then turn the control knob, press the ignition button and continue to depress the control knob for a few seconds. This is because a device called a thermocouple is heated by the flame and you have to continue to depress the control knob so that sufficient gas flows to heat up the thermocouple. If the thermocouple does not get hot or stay hot then the gas valve is automatically closed - stopping the gas. The thermocouple is a 'flame failure' safety device. If the gas gets cut off then the flame goes out and the thermocouple goes cold switching off the gas valve automatically. However, you are having to try and manually keep the gas going for a good five minutes. I would think that there is either a problem with the thermocouple or the gas control valve! Tony www.birminghamelectricsltd.com

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Pilot will not light


The Pilot indicator will appear to line up with the arrow on the base, and even push in as though allowing gas to flow, but if it is just 1mm out of alignment, no gas will flow. So the solution is to move the valve in the Pilot mode slightly in one direction or the other to see if/when gas flows.

Nov 06, 2008 | Williams 1403622 Gas Compact Heater

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EUROLEC 3572 9506 LPG GAS OVEN


OK sista62, here is your solution. The problem is that the thermocouple that controls the valve supplying gas to the ovenjet is not working. A new thermocouple is available from http://blgas.com.au/online/category4_1.htm and will cost about AUD$40.00.


The control valve is located right behind the knob on the frontpanel (the centre one that controls both the oven and the grill.) You will see two small copper tubes going into the control valve. These are the thermocouple tubes, one comes from the griller and the other from the ovenjet. All the other knobs only have one thermocouple for each of the topplate burners.

If you want to test before you buy, disconnect the thermocouple from from one of the topplate burners and connect it to the one for the oven control valve. Now turn on the topplate burner and keep it going by holding the knob down on the front panel for this burner. Now light the oven burner and it should stay on.

Good luck.

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