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Continental Freezer model F2 404A refrigerant not cooling properly. Replaced cap tube, and filter drier, evacuated, and charged. Box temp not going below 32' and ice forming at beginning of evaporator. Ambient 85 to 105', condenser temp at 30' above ambient, evaporator pressure 24 to 30 PSI. Nothing I have tried is improving the temp, or pressure. Customer irate. I used a BC1 cap tube (dual feed) at recommended length of 56' each. Did not work, shortened tubes by 1/3 = 19". Still the same. What else can I do?

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Check the compressor efficiency. See if it will pump down. In most cases, a good compressor will pull down to about 15" vacuum. Also, be sure that the refrigerant amount was weighed in and not done by pressures only.

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call e-mail the manufacture if you can get the oem parts for the cap tube size I'd need the horse power of the compressor.

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