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My machine (I have used it before on this type of fabric) is suddenly pulling the fabric on the underneath. At first it was also pulling the top stitches so I adjusted tension, rethreaded everything. Now the top looks great but underneath is a mess!

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If this then is still giving the looping underneath, recheck that the top thread has seated into the tension discs fully, always raise the pressure foot before threading the top of the machine so the tension discs are open fully.

Also cleaning top tension discs sometimes helps, to do this, turn tension dial right down to zero, raise pressure foot, remove all top thread and "floss" between the tension discs with the selvage edge of a clean piece of cotton fabric, if you get lots of gunk on the fabric edge from the tension discs, then keep cleaning with a fresh bit of fabric. Thread, especially, black or cheap brands, will shed dye particles and this will build up in the tension device with time. You can also clean with some denatured alcohol, just wet the fabric edge and floss again. Just don't get onto any plastic bits.

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Also if you don't have a manual for your singer you can download at http://www.singerco.com/accessories/instruction-manuals, just type in your model number and click search.

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