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  • woonsx57 Apr 14, 2009

    i know where it is (im a programmer myself) but for the life of me i cant figure out how to get the blasted thing out. i need to reapply some thermal paste to it is all

  • woonsx57 Apr 14, 2009

    it s also an HP Pavilion a510n Media Center Desktop, she's pretty old, just needs some work,

  • woonsx57 Apr 15, 2009

    I'm just trying tyo take it out so i can re Apply thermal paste

  • Binesh Ellupurayil Balachandran

    which is your model?

  • Kenny Wilson May 11, 2010

    What kind of processor do you have?

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Usually on the motherboard there is a fan that seats on top of the CPU. If it is intel then the fan clips onto the motherboard. Just be careful and follow the arrows to loosen the fan before removing it. Then replace the heatsink. Make sure when you put it back together that the clips firmly snap and that it goes on the exact same way it came off, otherwise you will not have contact and the CPU will overheat thus shutting your down your comp. This happened to me when I cleaned my CPU fan recently. Hope this helps please leave feedback. Thanks

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What is the problem? Please include as much info as possible including make and model.

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Are you replacing the processor or just trying to remove it?

When you open the case you will see a large fan seated to the motherboard (depending on the model it can be in different places and at different angles). Under that fan is the heatsink, it is usually screwed or clipped into place. You will need to remove that heatsink to get at the processor.

If you are replacing the processor or moving the old one to a new machine make sure that the socket number is right for the motherboard, and that you apply thermal paste to the processor. Without it you will have overheating problems.

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Processor is clean?

Hmmm, are you sure you aren't referring to the Heatsink, sitting on top of the Processor's case?

One example of a typical Heatsink/Fan combo,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3451342&CatId=493

[Typical construction of a Heatsink is a flat plate of metal, with tall, thin fins protruding from it.

The plate of metal absorbs heat from whatever object it is placed against, and the tall, thin fins absorb the heat from the plate, whereupon the fins radiate the heat away.

A Processor isn't the only hardware component inside a personal computer, that utilizes a Heatsink.

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In your reference, "The fans are clean, and so is the Processor", I hope this isn't an actual reference that the top of the Processor's case is clean.

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