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Boiler gets too hot

Hi--about 1 year after getting my Francis Francis x5 the boiler seems to have broken. For some reason, it can't regulate its temperature anymore, causing it to always heat to the point of steaming and no longer allowing me to brew anything. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

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    JEFFrey BAKER May 11, 2010

    IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE YOUR THERMASTAT THATS BROKE

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Hi there, as far as im aware there is no power board on a Francis Francis X1 and it sounds like one of the thermostats that sits on top of the boiler has gone. Now if you still require assistance please get in touch with myself (David) at coffeeservice@live.com and i can try to order on in for you or if your not sure i am a domestic coffee machine engineer and have machines sent to me daily from all over the UK and i could fix it for you. Our mother website is www.theespressoshop.co.uk and you can get all the details on there by clicking on the Domestic Repairs on the list on the left hand side. Any probs please get in touch at email address above.

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Hi Contact Francis/Francis because you need power board.

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