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How can I determine the size of a pata drive .

I wish to purchase an enclosure for a pata drive. Adverts for enclosures seem to specify a particular size but I have no idea what size mine is. Is there any way of determining the size by the figures or letters on the casing? Many Thanks.

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My desk top computers screen went black, can my data be save on the hard drive and how can i take it off


Not posting the model number of the Dell desktop computer, get's you generic information.

The model number can be found on the back of the computer, next to the Windows product key.

Moving on......


Suggest use an external enclosure.
Remove the harddrive from the computer, and install it in an external enclosure.

The external enclosure has a USB cable, and you just plug it into any available USB port, on a working computer.

Then go to My Computer, or Computer; depending on which Windows operating system the computer has; and double-click on the drive letter that corresponds with the external enclosure.

(WinXP: Start > My Computer
Win Visa / Win 7: Windows logo button > Computer )

Examples of drive letters;

C: Drive = Harddrive of the computer you are using

D: Drive = Separate partition on the harddrive for Restore files, or is for the optical drive (CD/DVD drive)

E: Drive = Optical drive generally, but may be the drive letter that corresponds to a Removable Device.
The external enclosure you plugged in, is a removable device.

None of the above is 'etched in stone', except the C:Drive
Things change from computer to computer, and the way you may have it set up.

Easy way to know?
Before plugging in external enclosure, open My Computer, or Computer.
Look at what each drive letter corresponds to.

Now when you plug the external enclosure in, you will see the change; and know which drive letter corresponds to the external enclosure you just plugged in.

Double-click on the name next to the drive letter, that corresponds to the external enclosure you plugged in.

Go into My Documents, or Documents.
Again, depends on which version of Windows you have.
Win XP = Start > My Documents
Win Vista / Win 7 = Windows logo button > Documents

Now open each folder, until you get the personal files you want to keep.
Photos, music, videos, documents you have created, or downloaded.

You cannot remove programs, or applications. Just your personal stuff.
(You can, but that is for a separate discussion)

Also open Downloads.
(WinXP = Click on Start > My Documents > DOUBLE-click on Downloads.

Win Vista / Win 7 = Click on the Windows logo button (Start), click on Documents, click on Downloads.

Harddrives are measured in Width.
2-1/2 inches across for a laptop harddrive. 2.5 inches.
3.5 inches for a desktop harddrive.

Don't know what Dell this is again, don't have the model number.

Cannot tell you if the harddrive is an IDE (PATA) unit, or a SATA unit.

So you will need either a 3.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure,
OR,
a 3.5 SATA external enclosure.

There are external enclosures that are 3.5 and IDE/SATA, also.

Basic examples,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1733195&CatId=2779

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145406&CatId=2780

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3883498&CatId=2780

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA


Easy way to identify what type technology is used, for the harddrive in your computer; IDE/PATA, or SATA;

Power cable for an IDE/PATA harddrive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#peripheral

Power cable for a SATA harddrive,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#sata

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Mar 29, 2013 | Dell Computers & Internet

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SONY VAIO PCV R53 39 DS WON'T BOOT UP


Pull the harddrive out, install in an economical external enclosure.
The external enclosure has a USB cable.

Plug the USB cable into any available USB port, on a working computer.

Go to My Computer, or Computer; and double-click on the drive letter, that corresponds with the external enclosure.

(Actually with the harddrive in that external enclosure, it is now an external harddrive)

http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=PCVR539DS&LOC=3#/howtoTab

It's an IDE harddrive. Also known as a PATA harddrive.

A harddrive is measured across it's width.
2-1/2 inches across is a laptop harddrive.
3.5 inches across is a desktop harddrive. (3-1/2 inches)

So you need a 3.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure.
One example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1733195&CatId=2779

Regards,
joecoolvette

Mar 26, 2013 | Sony VAIO Computers & Internet

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CAN I USE MY HARD DISC WITH USB CONNECTION


Yes, you can. You'll need a little more hardware however. You can find "hard drive enclosures" at many computer stores, ebay and electronics stores. They look like these. In order to make this work, you need to determine the physical size and interface of the Samsung hard drive first. Most notebook drives are 2.5" and most desktop drives are 3.5" types (regardless of capacity). You'll need to find an enclosure for the drive size and interface type.

The Samsung drive is likely to be either and IDE type with a SATA (serial) or PATA (parallel) interface. Pictures of SATA cables are here, and PATA cables are here. You would select the enclosure depending on 2.5" or 3.5" size and SATA or PATA interface type. Lastly, would be to choose either a USB connection between the computer and enclosure, or an ESATA type. ESATA simply means External SATA. If your computer offers an ESATA jack on the front or rear panel, you might consider using it as it is much faster than USB. If you do not have an ESATA jack, stick with the USB type. All but the most oldest computers support USB 2.0 standard speeds, newer computers have a faster USB 3.0 speed (5Gbit/S) standard, but this hardware is fully backward compatible to the USB 2.0 & USB 1 speed (480Mbi/S) and hardware standards. If your computer has the original USB 1.x standrad speeds, you might consider purchasing a USB 2.0 or 3.0 expansion card as the USB 1.x standard is very slow (just 12 Mbit/S). Check these links for pictures of ESATA, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 If you look closely, you can see the slight differences. USB 1.0 and USB 2.0 look identical.

Some enclosures will require / include a power adapter for the drive. Make sure you get what is required to get the drive to spin up properly. After your computer is up and running, connect the external drive to the USB jack and let the computer install drivers as needed; then use it as any other thumb drive etc. ESATA however may be different. In any case, follow the instructions included with the enclosure you purchased.

After copying good data, you might be able to format and scan the Samsung drive and map out the errant portions. Even still, I would not use the drive for important information or day to day uses. If you do, be sure to maintain frequent backups.

Good luck!

May 23, 2012 | Computers & Internet

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Can't read HD-- I/O error


"Joecolvette" has probably got it right, I've seen this before. The HDD enclosure circuit board has a fault. Can be resolved by replacing the enclosure. Plenty on ebay, just ensure you buy one with the correct HDD interface (Sata or IDE).

Alternatively, if you have a tower with a spare port, you could take the HDD out of the caddy, install it in the tower as a "Slave" (check jumper settings) ensuring the system drive is set to "Master". Then you can check whether the HDD itself is at fault.

Apr 28, 2012 | Maxtor Computers & Internet

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My WD Book was spinning and clicking constantly, so i unplugged the USB and the power source from my laptop. After plugging back in, it is no longer recognized on My Computer -- I've rebooted 2x. My...


Let's hope the spinning and clicking was caused by a bad circuit board in the WD Book, and not the Harddrive inside it.

To explain;
Inside the plastic external enclosure (Case) of the WD MyBook is an ordinary harddrive as used in a laptop, or desktop computer.

There is a small circuit board inside the case, that the harddrive plugs into. (Or there are wires from the small circuit board, to the harddrive)

The other end of the circuit board, has a USB cable attached to it.
The circuit board is an Interface Board.

It is this small interface circuit board that USUALLY goes out.
Harddrives are pretty tough, but they are a mechanical device, and are rated in hours of usage. They can fail.

What I would suggest is to buy an economical external enclosure.
Has the circuit board, USB cable, and everything needed, just needs the Harddrive.

Installing is easy. There are instructions included.

Now we come to the technical portion.
What size harddrive is it, and what technology does it use?

Size:
1) There are two sizes of Harddrives. They are measured across the Width.

A 2.5 inch harddrive is a laptop size harddrive.
(2 and a half inches across in width)

A 3.5 inch harddrive is a desktop size harddrive.

Once you open the WD MyBook case, and measure, you will know.
Pretty easy.
Technology:
Looking at the harddrives label, will tell you if it is an IDE (PATA) model, or a SATA model.

If no nomenclature is readily apparent looking at the label, there will be a model number on the label.
Put the model number in your search bar.

Example:
WD2500BEVT

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136387

250GB SATA harddrive. Also is a laptop size harddrive.
(2.5)

If you cannot find the information, just post the Model Number in a Comment, and I'll find out.

Example of a 2.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3195233&CatId=2783

Example of a 3.5 SATA external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145406&CatId=2780

Example of a 2.5 IDE (PATA) external enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1086960&CatId=2781

Example of a 3.5 IDE (PATA) enclosure,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1337265&CatId=2779

The information on how to open a WD MyBook case, is not something the external harddrive manufacturer states.
For this we'll have to rely on videos that are made,

1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FlySnyJ0CQ

There are also other related videos to the right.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Oct 09, 2011 | Computers & Internet

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Can not get computer to recognize hard drive any more?


You could try using another USB port on your computer. Perhaps that USB port you have the IOmega external harddrive plugged into is bad.

More than likely not, though.

The problem is usually inside the IOmega's case. (External enclosure)

Inside that IOmega external harddrive's case is a regular harddrive as used in a desktop, or laptop computer.
To explain;

Harddrives are physically rated in width, as well as type, and size.
A laptop harddrive is 2.5 inches across in width. (2 and a half inches)
A desktop harddrive is 3.5 inches.

The larger desktop harddrives are usually used in external harddrives that are 500GB, and larger.
(Not always the case when it comes to the 500GB size)

Harddrives have two technologies, or types.
IDE (PATA) or SATA.

You didn't state the Model Number so I can't even hazard a guess at this point.

The harddrive inside the case plugs into an Interface.
The Interface may be separate, and connected via a cable to a small circuit board, or the Interface may be soldered directly to the small circuit board.

It is this Interface, and circuit board which go bad.
The solution is to remove the harddrive inside, purchase an inexpensive external enclosure, and install the harddrive into it.

The external enclosure has a USB cable just like the IOmega external harddrive did.

As stated the harddrive inside is just a normal harddrive. Made by a harddrive manufacturer.
Could be a Western Digital, or Seagate, or Hitachi, or Maxtor, or Fujitsu, or IBM, just to name a few.
(Seagate bought out Maxtor)

On the harddrive will be a decal with it's specifications.
You will also be able to physically measure the width.

This external hookup will support harddrives that are 2.5, or 3.5 inches in width, (And 5.25), plus will support both IDE (PATA) or SATA harddrives,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7220658&CatId=3770

This external enclosure is for a desktop sized harddrive, 3.5 inches, and will support either IDE (PATA) or SATA harddrives,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1951866&CatId=2780

This external enclosure example is for laptop sized harddrives, 2.5 inches, and will support either IDE, (PATA), or SATA harddrives,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7041055&CatId=2783

Just one example of how to disassemble an IOmega Select Portable harddrive,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvUvz5Qb4vw

Other styles are listed in the Suggestions column down on the right.
Not a good source for information on disassembling an IOmega external harddrive, but there is very little info available.

(It isn't that tough for any external harddrive enclosure. The screws are usually hidden under labels, and the case pops apart in two halves. Just a little different design here, and there)

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Jun 14, 2011 | Iomega Computers & Internet

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Hi there we purchased a maxtor basics 500gb hard drive about 3 years ago. we have had children in that time and unfortunetly our two year old daughter dropped it. we have taken it to a service store but...


If it is the external hard drive enclosure that is broken then yes. But if it is the hard drive itself that is broken then no.
From what happened I'm thinking that it is the external hard drive enclosure that is broken. That being said, you can easily buy one without the hard drive online. When doing this be sure you know what kind of hard drive is in your Maxtor enclosure. This is important because you need to be sure that your hard drive and enclosure are compatible. Check to see if it uses SATA, ATA, or PATA connectors and then buy the corresponding external hard drive enclosure.
Once you have bought your new empty external hard drive enclosure, it is simply a matter of opening up your Maxtor enclosure and moving the hard drive inside to your newly purchased enclosure and connecting it to your computer.
To avoid problems like this in the future, look into "cloud based storage" to back up all of your data securely online.

Mar 29, 2011 | Maxtor Personal Storage 3200 (U01E200) 200...

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How do I size my hard drive mine is 4"wideX53/4 longX1" deep 40gb im looking for a caddy for it


This is almost definatly an E-IDE (PATA) desktop hard drive.
These drives are refered to as 3.5 inch drives, and laptop drives as 2.5 inch.
Just google ide caddy or enclosure

Sep 23, 2010 | Computers & Internet

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I have a acer aspire t180 desktop with a 250gb hitachi scsi (ide) hd. I would like to know which hard drives are compatible so that I can exchange it. thanks


It's a SATA harddrive, not SCSI.

Serial ATA

Acer Support > Aspire T180 > Specifications >

http://www.acersupport.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/AspireT180/AspireT180sp2.shtml

Will use up to a 400GB SATA harddrive according to Acer.

IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics.
Another name is PATA.
Parallel ATA
Used to distinguish between IDE and SATA.

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Drive_Electronics

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCSI

Exchange it?
Your harddrive has the Operating System on it.
A new harddrive will not have an O/S on it.
(Windows XP is an example of an O/S)

It would be much easier to install the harddrive you wish into an external enclosure, and plug the external enclosure's USB cable into your T180.

One example of a desktop size harddrive SATA external enclosure,
(3.5 inch SATA external enclosure.
3 and 1/2 inches across in width, for a desktop harddrive.
Laptop HD's are 2.5)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2145406&CatId=2780

Jun 18, 2010 | Acer Aspire™ T180 PC Desktop

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Want to buy an enclosure


it will all depend on the model of HDD you have, is it Sata or IDE(PATA)? based on that i suggest you buy the enclosure. actualy the converter is a very small device.. hence i suggest you not to spead alot on the enclosure. there are several good enclosures that are made in china. many offer warranty. so go fo one of those.

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