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DOES ANYONE KNOW ALLGENERATOR WINDING RESISTANCES ?

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT EACH GENERATOR WINDING DC RESISTANCE SHOULD BE ON A GUARDIAN 15KW PORTABLE GENERATOR SHOULD BE ? BMAR

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5 Ohms at the rotor.
Disconnect all the stator wires and measure each one to ground, it should read opened.
Before disconnecting wires, mark which are hot and which are neutral. Measure between the hot neutral wires and some should read at least 0.5 ohms. You should have T1 and T2 reading 0.5 and T3 and T4 reading 0.5. T1 and T3 should read opened, T1 to T4 should read opened. Also, T2 to T3 should be opened and T2 to T4 opened.

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