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Pass Thru, Analog Signal Converter How-To

My new GV-D200 works great for transfering Digital8, Video8, and Hi8 tapes to my computer through the IEEE 1394 firewire cable, using a variety of different capturing software. But I can't get it to act as a passthru/analog converter. Every Capture software I use only recognizes it as a tape player, and either refuses to do anything if a tape is not in the unit, or if there is a tape in it, will only record the tape. In the manual it describes the setup for plugging an analog device (a VCR) into the GV-D200 with composite inputs, and plugging the GV-D200 into the computer with a firewire cable, and setting the GV-D200's setting to "A/V->DV". I did this. In the capture softwares preview box, it would show what was playing off the VCR, but when I hit capture, it would Remotely start playback of the GV-D200's 8mm tape and only capture the tape. Does anyone know this device/series well enough to tell me how I can my VCR's signal to go through the GV-D200 and captured by the computer? I've tried Windows Movie Maker, Roxio, and Powerdirector for Video capture, and they all capture the tapes fine, but will not recognize the VCR's thru-signal. Thanks in advance! I'd really much rather use this high-quality device with TBC as my analog converter then dropping down another couple hundred dollars for a seperate analog USB converter.

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  • Etherel15 Sep 15, 2007

    Its not the macrovision. I've also tried other devices such as my camcorders Composite, Video Game outputs, and 15 year old VHS tapes recorded by a shoulder held camera. I can view the passthru signal from the analog device, but all my software will only acknowledge the device (The GV-D200) as a tape player, and will only capture when the GV-D200's tape deck is playing, and stops when the tape stops. Even though the thru-signal is still playing and displayed, it won't capture regardless of the signal's origin.



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Although I am not versed on your exact camera this suggestion ought to work.
Make sure the VCR connections are correctly made to the units OUT ports of video. I know this is very basic but double check each time you try a new arrangement. If the VCR has a S-VHS and the camera has s S-VHS use only that connection- VCR out to S-VHS on the camera. The camera will default to the correct direction.
Next make sure the camera is switched or dialed to VTR. This is a external physical lever or dial on ninety percent of camcorders. If someone has suggested using the Camera or record position this may be the problem.{ Even if the manual says to use a camera [software] menu selection while in the camera mode, that may be a second way if the first was not followed correctly.]
Again, all the camcorders I have used to pass thru, such as a Sony D-8 for conversion of Hi-8, have required the external selection to VTR as first step. The last suggestion is when this setup is done as described do not have a tape in the camera. That will cause the camera to default to the tape.
Once you have a signal shown on a preview screen that is what you see is what you get.
To summarize : Check connections from VCR out connecting to the camera's in ports. Attention to the color of the plugs also: yellow is usually video nowadays etc.
If you are fortunate to have S-VHS then only the single cord VCR to camera is used.
Make sure camcorder switch selection is to VTR and not Camera.
If you try this arrangement three times and it does not work I would strongly recommend downloading the free version of Nero. I think version .7 is now free if not then version .6 I like it because when you have the preview screen for Make DVD movie selected, there is a drop down menu on the top bar that will recognize what camera you are using. If the exact camera is not given try the others offered.
Once you have a working preview ,the bottom screen contros lighten and your camera is controlled by the VCR like controls for the preview screen. Nero is a simple, get it done program that has worked for me when my Premiere, Sony, Ulead etc. would not recognize the old Sony D8. Most of this is real basic, keep it simple, get done.
Good luck

Posted on Apr 29, 2009


Try going into options (on Vegas at least) or wherever else does the job and shutting off "DV control." Analog input, especially pass-through has no way of controlling the transport (i.e. player controls). All it can do is accept audio/video input coming down the pipe but no player-type controls.

In Vegas anytime I do analog signals passed through a DV connection to the computer capture I have to shut off the DV control (start, stop, play, rewind, fast-forward etc.). Then it works perfectly. If I don't do this I can't even see the audio/video.

When I go back to a dv input (such as miniDV) I just turn DV control back on.

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I wonder if this is a MacroVision problem. Try this; take a VCR tape that you have recorded from the tv, try to record a commercial and then play this tape through your setup, I bet you it works. (Now take what I say next in the sense that it is given and that is as advice)When you are trying to push signal that you get from an analog source from the VCR by law that signal has to be encoded with macrovision to ensure that the signal can not be copied. Now the funny thing is you can transfer tapes which have not been encoded this is normal, what you need is a piece of equipment that removes Macrovision, here is a link that might help: also look up the company SIMA

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